BADSPOT IS most pathetic user in blockland history

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no joke I was on the ROBLOX forum and some kid was like "WE'RE NOT OMNIVORES WE ARE 100% HERBIVORES AND IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT GO OUT INTO THE WOODS AND KILL A SQUIRREL AND EAT IT WHOLE UNCOOKED, DON'T FORGET THE EYEBALLS!!1!1!!111!1!!!1!1!1!!"

some vegans are SJW-levels of handicapped

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[Mega-Bear]

That's the cruel reality of nature though. Animals slaughter each other too. Why is it only bad when we do it? You don't see anyone crying about carnivores murdering other animals because they need food.

And don't pull that 'but we're omnivores' bullstuff. Plants are living organisms too. The fact they can't feel pain is just a stupid thing I hear too often. So it's okay to kill things to eat if it doesn't have a sense of pain? That's handicapped.

I think we should hold businesses to a higher standard than wild predators. (Edit: directly modeling any aspect of society after "the cruelty of nature" is not a good idea for obvious reasons.) If we can avoid causing unnecessary pain and suffering to animals, why not? Also your second paragraph makes no sense to me-- if something feels no pain and has little semblance of emotions, then there is no ethical issue with killing it in large numbers for food. I honestly can't tell what point you're trying to make there.

no joke I was on the ROBLOX forum and some kid was like "WE'RE NOT OMNIVORES WE ARE 100% HERBIVORES AND IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT GO OUT INTO THE WOODS AND KILL A SQUIRREL AND EAT IT WHOLE UNCOOKED, DON'T FORGET THE EYEBALLS!!1!1!!111!1!!!1!1!1!!"

some vegans are SJW-levels of handicapped

Sounds like that person was pretty ignorant lol

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https://youtube.com/watch?v=OQHIMWzk8Do

[McZealot]

The US Slave trade caused an estimated 5 million deaths. 56 billion animals are slaughtered every year. That means we've killed almost a trillion innocent creatures since the millennium. Not sure you how can can argue that it isn't worse than slavery (other than buzzwords and vegan memes), unless you somehow delude yourself that the life of a person is literally infinitely greater than that of an animal--which it isn't.

A lot of people act shocked and post hilarious reactions to this, but I've never actually seen someone try to refute it.

[Maxwell.]

A lot of people act shocked and post hilarious reactions to this, but I've never actually seen someone try to refute it.

if your first instinct as a human isn't to kill and eat an animal - some of which like chickens which are almost brainless - to saturate your hunger, then you may be biologically dysfunctional

this is why no one responds to your posts about this

[Nonnel]

The way I see it, it's fine to kill and eat something that feels pain. Humans are omnivores and it's a natural part of life. Factory farms, though, are inhumane since animals are left in horrible, cramped conditions for their whole lives then put on a conveyer belt to get slaughtered.

That's why open range grass-fed cattle is popular. The animals at least get to live their lives before we kill them.

and yes, animals have feelings.

[McZealot]

if your first instinct as a human isn't to kill and eat an animal - some of which like chickens which are almost brainless - to saturate your hunger, then you may be biologically dysfunctional

this is why no one responds to your posts about this

The forget? If you want to live like a cave-man turn of your computer and go eat raw meat. Humans may have evolved eating deer and other animals they hunted themselves but we weren't evolved to eat massive portions of chicken and pig loaded up with chemicals and preservatives and force-fed until they can barely walk. Humans also evolved to sleep when it got dark, so you should smash all those lightbulbs in your house. Humans certainly didn't evolve to argue over  the Internet. If you're gonna make the 'all natural evolution is the right way to go' path then you have to take it all the way.

Supplemented Veganism is frequently proved the healthiest diet in the world. It has the lowest risk of cancer across the board was well as the lowest fatty intake, while limiting access to unhealthy preservatives and carcinogens found in most processed meats. If anything, veganism is actually way more natural than someone who stuffs themselves with chemically engorged meat.

Funny that you say 'no-one responds to your posts on this' since every time I even glancingly mention anything out veganism or animal rights every stuffs themselves and starts screaming.

The way I see it, it's fine to kill and eat something that feels pain. Humans are omnivores and it's a natural part of life. Factory farms, though, are inhumane since animals are left in horrible, cramped conditions for their whole lives then put on a conveyer belt to get slaughtered.

That's why open range grass-fed cattle is popular. The animals at least get to live their lives before we kill them.

We don't have to kill them at all since we can perfectly supplement an omnivorous diet with plants and vitamins. But yea, you're exactly right for the most part.

this is why no one responds to your posts about this

Have you ever touched a chicken? They're a lot smarter than you'd expect--people keep them at pets.

[IkeTheGeneric]

The only argument that should be made about inhumane conditions is the argument that unsafe or unhealthy conditions for livestock can propagate disease and bacteria. Until you propose an alternative to livestock slaughter for food output, your opinion is nice and all but we can't really afford to just drop an entire source of food.

If we can produce a cheap alternative to meat and livestock product, we could entertain this idea, otherwise, not really.

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I miss the old zealot that spammed servers and trolled people

at least back then we knew it wasn't sincere when he said stupid stuff

[Nonnel]

The only argument that should be made about inhumane conditions is the argument that unsafe or unhealthy conditions for livestock can propagate disease and bacteria. Until you propose an alternative to livestock slaughter for food output, your opinion is nice and all but we can't really afford to just drop an entire source of food.

If we can produce a cheap alternative to meat and livestock product, we could entertain this idea, otherwise, not really.

based on the rule of 10%, we'd get 10x more food if we ate the grain we fed cattle instead of the cattle themselves

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and how is our evolution as a species not natural? everything we used to get to where we are now came from nature

The only argument that should be made about inhumane conditions is the argument that unsafe or unhealthy conditions for livestock can propagate disease and bacteria. Until you propose an alternative to livestock slaughter for food output, your opinion is nice and all but we can't really afford to just drop an entire source of food.

If we can produce a cheap alternative to meat and livestock product, we could entertain this idea, otherwise, not really.

but then you see people wouldn't buy it because it wouldn't be 100% meat

[McZealot]

The only argument that should be made about inhumane conditions is the argument that unsafe or unhealthy conditions for livestock can propagate disease and bacteria. Until you propose an alternative to livestock slaughter for food output, your opinion is nice and all but we can't really afford to just drop an entire source of food.

If we can produce a cheap alternative to meat and livestock product, we could entertain this idea, otherwise, not really.

We literally can, since as Nonnel said, we would get significantly more food eating what we feed animals. You can very cheaply supplant proteins that are difficult to obtain in plants via a few vitamins that are extremely cheap and easy to obtain. This is the diet with the lowest rate of disease or cancer risk.

We eat meat because it tastes good. Trying to make any sort of argument on the matter is easily debunked.

I miss the old zealot that spammed servers and trolled people

at least back then we knew it wasn't sincere when he said stupid stuff

Yea dude forget people with opinions. Especially those that make major life chances in an attempt to fix things they think are wrong with the world. forget electric cars!

[IkeTheGeneric]

based on the rule of 10%, we'd get 10x more food if we ate the grain we fed cattle instead of the cattle themselves

We literally can, since as Nonnel said, we would get significantly more food eating what we feed animals. You can very cheaply supplant proteins that are difficult to obtain in plants via a few vitamins that are extremely cheap and easy to obtain. This is the diet with the lowest rate of disease or cancer risk.

We eat meat because it tastes good. Trying to make any sort of argument on the matter is easily debunked.

Not an affordable substitute. We eat meat because it's incredibly easy to cultivate. Grains haven't been as easy to cultivate until the late 20th century, and there's still a multitude of factors that makes cultivating enough grain to feed the people that now can't eat meat unfeasible.

Along with this, livestock don't only solely produce meat products, either. There's an entire industry of livestock product that you need to find cheap alternatives to if you want to make any changes. Otherwise, you're just blowing hot air.

but then you see people wouldn't buy it because it wouldn't be 100% meat

If you can afford to choose to not eat something because of it's properties, you probably could afford the incredibly privileged vegan lifestyle to begin with.

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i thought zealot forgeted off

[McZealot]

If you can afford to choose to not eat something because of it's properties, you probably could afford the incredibly privileged vegan lifestyle to begin with.

Yea, how incredible privileged that I desperately try to avoid consuming something that directly causes mass suffering across the world--living in the region of the US (the South) that consumes the most meat. Are you loving listening to yourself? You're gonna tell me stuff about privilege when 90% of the population can pick from more than 2 items on the menu.

i thought zealot forgeted off

Yea and I thought you weren't a total handicap but I guess we were both wrong.