Author Topic: [NEWS] North Korea successfully tests hydrogen bomb  (Read 14044 times)

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because things are imported to north korea

also relevant: the reason behind pearl harbor

The nuclear arms are a deterrent for invasion, not something they actually plan on launching.

While this is certainly the case, some countries simply can't be allowed to have nukes, because they can't be trusted with them. NK is one of them. Maybe if they had a different regime they could be but right now, forget loving no.

because things are imported to north korea

also relevant: the reason behind pearl harbor

If NK cared about being sanctioned they would've stopped this bullstuff years ago
It's like when you keep putting a kid in time out and they keep doing the same stuff. Eventually you need to say forget this and give em a good smacking

As opposed to the thousands of deaths already happening in NK? The only difference is we're preventing a politically volatile state from stockpiling WMDs
do you think those deaths are going to stop one we take direct military action? those people are still going to starve to death alongside deaths from combat. and if Kim actually fired a hydrogen bomb way more people would die that have died from starvation in NK in years.

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if they can't make money off of coal exports how will they make money

If NK cared about being sanctioned they would've stopped this bullstuff years ago
It's like when you keep putting a kid in time out and they keep doing the same stuff. Eventually you need to say forget this and give em a good smacking
except you're the teacher, and smacking children as a teacher is against the law. instead your job is to bring them to the principal's office and educate them on how misbehaving is a bad thing. if they don't learn, then you just gotta wait until they do something really bad. then you give them detention

if you think threatening a country warrants an invasion, nk technically has the right to invade us, since we threatened them too.
« Last Edit: September 03, 2017, 06:27:22 PM by PhantOS »

If NK cared about being sanctioned they would've stopped this bullstuff years ago
It's like when you keep putting a kid in time out and they keep doing the same stuff. Eventually you need to say forget this and give em a good smacking
i mean that's where the allusion to japan comes in. japan didn't stop because of the embargo, they attacked.
also don't abuse your kids

if they can't make money off of coal exports how will they make money
except you're the teacher, and smacking children as a teacher is against the law. instead your job is to bring them to the principal's office and educate them on how misbehaving is a bad thing. if they don't learn, then you just gotta wait until they do something really bad. then you give them detention

Got it, so we should starve them out, wait until they get desperate enough to Nuke Seoul or Japan, THEN we should stop them? After they've claimed tens of millions of lives? That's your plan here? Really?

i mean that's where the allusion to japan comes in. japan didn't stop because of the embargo, they attacked.
also don't abuse your kids

Capital Corporal punishment isn't abuse as long as it's within reason
« Last Edit: September 03, 2017, 06:43:18 PM by Deus Ex »

Got it, so we should starve them out, wait until they get desperate enough to Nuke Seoul or Japan, THEN we should stop them? After they've claimed tens of millions of lives? That's your plan here? Really?
we starve them out, they get desperate and surrender their nuclear devices, then the un collects/destroys them and forces them to sign a nuclear test treaty.

what you described is like the ultimate shoot yourself in the foot scenario. you're operating on the assumption that Dennis Rodman's Pal's entire staff of advisers are autistic and suicidal. if they were willing to launch a nuke and kill people with it, which anyone could see would not help them in any way, they would've done that years ago.

if you have weapons of mass destruction and you're currently starving, the best outcome is to sell your weapons in order to remove the sanctions / improve the economy. the worst outcome would be to launch it, wasting billions of dollars of nuclear-grade chemicals and work for literally no reason. people have dedicated their entire lives to brown townyzing pedigree charts of best/worst outcomes, and what you describe is the equivalent of killing all your hostages in a robbery. you're just throwing away all your loving assets for no reason and committing Self Delete in the process. if i was one of kim's 30 war advisors i'd probably have the loving brain and life drive to object to any form of nuclear attack

Capital punishment isn't abuse as long as it's within reason
reason isn't reasonable. if you don't know what i mean by this, there are people in the world that kill you for stealing bread and nobody even blinks twice. that was within reason to them but obviously it's not within reason to you or me. reevaluate your reasons
« Last Edit: September 03, 2017, 06:37:34 PM by PhantOS »

"capital punishment" is the death penalty, you're thinking of corporal punishment
if your punishment involves physical pain, it is abuse. it's assault if you hit an adult, why's it okay to hit a child?

not only is it abusive to hit children, it teaches them that violence is an acceptable means to solve problems and will seriously increase their chances of physically bullying others when they grow older. no-one in america should ever have to fear for their life or health unless they are an immediate threat. corporal or capital punishment are both bad because they suggest violence is an acceptable means to an end when not required.

not only is it abusive to hit children, it teaches them that violence is an acceptable means to solve problems and will seriously increase their chances of physically bullying others when they grow older. no-one in america should ever have to fear for their life or health unless they are an immediate threat. corporal or capital punishment are both bad because they suggest violence is an acceptable means to an end when not required.
spanking a kid isn't abuse
not to say that it always works but you can't report child abuse when a parent spanks a kid because he steals a cookie from the cookie jar

we starve them out, they get desperate and surrender their nuclear devices, then the un collects/destroys them and forces them to sign a nuclear test treaty.

what you described is like the ultimate shoot yourself in the foot scenario. you're operating on the assumption that Dennis Rodman's Pal's entire staff of advisers are autistic and suicidal. if they were willing to launch a nuke and kill people with it, which anyone could see would not help them in any way, they would've done that years ago.

if you have weapons of mass destruction and you're currently starving, the best outcome is to sell your weapons in order to remove the sanctions / improve the economy.

This is nice and all but NK has been starving for years with no forgets given and still continue to work on their nuclear capabilities so all of this is rendered null and void. We either deal with this now and kill several thousand people in the process or do it later after several hundred million people have lost their lives

"capital punishment" is the death penalty, you're thinking of corporal punishment
if your punishment involves physical pain, it is abuse. it's assault if you hit an adult, why's it okay to hit a child?

Yeah that; and no it isn't. I don't know where this hugbox culture idea that hitting your kids is abuse came from but putting children in timeout doesn't work for every child. Some children can only be reigned it after a lengthy explanation of their forget up followed by a good spanking. Obviously there are methods that are simply unnecessary, like using a switch or cord, but to think that any kind of hitting is abuse is kind of ridiculous.

not only is it abusive to hit children, it teaches them that violence is an acceptable means to solve problems and will seriously increase their chances of physically bullying others when they grow older. no-one in america should ever have to fear for their life or health unless they are an immediate threat. corporal or capital punishment are both bad because they suggest violence is an acceptable means to an end when not required.


Spoken like someone who hasn't had to raise a stuffhead kid before
Speaking from experience (as the stuffhead kid), I can safely say every spanking I got only served to make me a better person growing up. I think if I hadn't gotten spanked, I'd be a much bigger starfish than I already am, and I don't have any lasting scars - physical or mental - because my parents were abusers. It's kind of offensive that you'd imply that are, to be honest. Not everyone who spanks their kids does it to the point of leaving horrific bruises. And while I hate to use this argument because it's a tad played out, they are acting in the interest of helping their kid not be such a stuffhead.
Spanking isn't physically bullying your kid, that's loving ridiculous. It's teaching the kid that some actions will have physical repercussions and they should not repeat them.
« Last Edit: September 03, 2017, 06:48:28 PM by Deus Ex »

This is nice and all but NK has been starving for years with no forgets given and still continue to work on their nuclear capabilities so all of this is rendered null and void. We either deal with this now and kill several thousand people in the process or do it later after several hundred million people have lost their lives
or we do neither of those two horrible options and instead make no risky decisions, that way 0 americans or north korean people will die.

you absolutely love to black and white this entire situation. there's objectively better choices than the two that you are suggesting, both of which will never actually loving happen because both the us and nk have a full team of smart, intelligent advisors who know when a decision is loving horrible

also this whole thing about 'them already being starving therefore everything is null and void' is the single most autistic thing i've ever heard. if you sanction north korea and they have no source of income, they will have no way to produce weapons, continue testing nuclear devices, and of course their economy will suffer heavily. all this combined has been in effect for a while, you just see 'because they haven't stopped its not working' which once again is just a simple black and white summary of an extremely complex scenario
« Last Edit: September 03, 2017, 06:50:09 PM by PhantOS »

0 north Koreans will die*
millions of americans will die*
there I have corrected your statement

0 north Koreans will die*
millions of americans will die*
there I have corrected your statement


W R O N G

Yeah that; and no it isn't. I don't know where this hugbox culture idea that hitting your kids is abuse came from but putting children in timeout doesn't work for every child. Some children can only be reigned it after a lengthy explanation of their forget up followed by a good spanking. Obviously there are methods that are simply unnecessary, like using a switch or cord, but to think that any kind of hitting is abuse is kind of ridiculous.
I dunno what to tell you. It is. The APA, WHO, and the UN Secretary-General's Study on Violence Against Children all agree that hitting your child is abuse. I'm more confused on how you came to understand that it isn't?

also you guys realize that NK's mass starvation was in the 90s, not right now, yeah?