Author Topic: Mass Shooting Megathread | Rancho Tehama, CA | 5 dead, shooter down  (Read 19365 times)

loving national socialists

so tell me why the forget should you rely on citizens to overthrow the government in either case

so you're telling me you'd feel better if the military took control of the government, right?

because I think you skimmed the point entirely like usual

owie

are you honestly comparing the threat of invasion to the modern day? why do you keep relying on stuff that was happening years ago to back you up it's just handicapped
because the past still holds relevance? if we could deter one of the world's strongest naval forces at its time, we can deter our own government from rolling tanks in our front yards
the second amendment was relevant when you were colonizing the frontier, and when the british were being kicked out, today it has no significance and backing up your point with it is stupid. likewise, who the forget is going to invade the modern day US? are you aware the military is at large and there to protect you? if the government breaks down then guns will be easy to get anyway, why are you making stuff up
the second amendment is still very much relevant whether you like it or not, because it's better to have protection and not need it than to need protection and not have it. the second your shield breaks is the second you get your stuff kicked in. i don't expect anyone to invade the united states, but it is a possibility, and i would like for us to be prepared even if it never happens. and yes, i'm very aware the government is here to protect us in the event of an invasion, but we have people to form militias to assist them should they need it. i'm not making anything up, i'm considering possibilities.

however i never said we'd be invaded. my prime concern is that our own goverment might pull some bullstuff. while it's far-fetched now, it could be a very real situation in the future.

IIRC that "a gun behind every blade of grass" quote doesn't have a solid source


"In the first six to twelve months of a war with the United States and Great Britain I will run wild and win victory upon victory. But then, if the war continues after that, I have no expectation of success. "

it's almost like yamamoto knew japan sucked stuff


redpilled george washington

Pretty sure if George Washington had a modern conception of the military-industrial complex and mass-surveillance/incarceration, he'd sing a different tune. No amount of muskets will topple the US government.

Pretty sure if George Washington had a modern conception of the military-industrial complex and mass-surveillance/incarceration, he'd sing a different tune. No amount of muskets will topple the US government.
Don't speak for a dead man.

le "military-industrial complex"

so you're telling me you'd feel better if the military took control of the government, right?
where did I even say that, like how the forget did you get that from that?

I said the military would realistically install another democratic government if yours right now tried to go full-dictatorship, nowhere did I even imply nor is your military even known for wanting to install some military-junta

because the past still holds relevance? if we could deter one of the world's strongest naval forces at its time, we can deter our own government from rolling tanks in our front yards
no you can't, like any weapon a civilian has would hardly stop a tank. that's the whole point of a tank unless you have another tank or plane to bomb it with. civilians have almost 0 access to either of these things and the us military has complete access to these weapons, so ultimately it's lost

the second amendment is still very much relevant whether you like it or not, because it's better to have protection and not need it than to need protection and not have it.
again, too unlikely

i don't expect anyone to invade the united states, but it is a possibility, and i would like for us to be prepared even if it never happens.
then you're just being delusional, and you shouldn't use that as a reason to keep them legal for literally everyone. it will never happen because your military is unlikely to go against peaceful civilians. your country was founded on and it's culture is centred around being ethical like most 1st world countries

but we have people to form militias to assist them should they need it. i'm not making anything up, i'm considering possibilities.

however i never said we'd be invaded. my prime concern is that our own goverment might pull some bullstuff. while it's far-fetched now, it could be a very real situation in the future.
if you have the need to form militias, the likely chance is that all law and order has broken down anyway and access to these guns is permitted. no one is saying you should or can ban guns completely, only make them more difficult to get for the wrong types of people such as actual psychopaths and the mentally unstable, and truth be told you hardly need an assault rifle even if your reason is the 0.00001% chance the government tries to kill it's population
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do y’all really think you’re gonna fight an army of highly trained soldiers with billions of dollars worth of equipment with your shotguns lmao

do y’all really think you’re gonna fight an army of highly trained soldiers with billions of dollars worth of equipment with your shotguns lmao

"ok guys we have orders to kill these civilians"
"i see no problem with this let's roll out"

"ok guys we have orders to kill these civilians"
"i see no problem with this let's roll out"
...your point? people would be incredibly opposed to the idea of becoming a military dictatorship, so there would be riots and the military would have to pick a side. literally no one is disagreeing with the fact the military would likely pick the side of the civilians and by then the war is already won