bill cosby found guilty on all counts

[King Tøny]

Did cosby also take the pill?

[Ad Bot]

[thegoodperry]

Did cosby also take the pill?

No.

[King Tøny]

No.

Was cosby drinking?

[Master Matthew²]

what the forget kind of point are you getting at

The point that the statement "What the #MeToo movement is saying is that women are worthy of being believed" should be laughed at and
considered insane. That statement is the embodiment of "listen and believe" which directly contradicts our legal system's idea of "Innocent until proven Guilty"
not "Innocent until we listen and believe".

[thegoodperry]

Was cosby drinking?

Inconclusive

[King Tøny]

Inconclusive

Well let me know if you if you know.

[IkeTheGeneric]

The point that the statement "What the #MeToo movement is saying is that women are worthy of being believed" should be laughed at and
considered insane.

Nobody cares about your views. You came to a conclusion on something. Congratulations. Go back to your corner.

[thegoodperry]

The point that the statement "What the #MeToo movement is saying is that women are worthy of being believed" should be laughed at and
considered insane. That statement is the embodiment of "listen and believe" which directly contradicts our legal system's idea of "Innocent until proven Guilty"
not "Innocent until we listen and believe".

The #meetoo movement is intended to rally possible rape victims to speak out as key witnesses/victims in trials, not that women's opinions on the matter are final or absolutely true. It doesn't matter if there's 80-90 witnesses/victims, each one has to prove that they were present at the time of the crime and that they were loveually assaulted. If there is not enough evidence then the trial is dismissed or it ends with lack of evidence.

Its obvious you're trying to say that the #metoo movement is influencing the trials in some way, and it actually is. It's providing more witnesses / alleged victims in the trial which can lead to more evidence. If the witnesses are duds / liars then the testimony wont matter anyways because they'd lack sufficient evidence in that case. Like one woman could say "bill cosby raped me in this city" and after a check it is proven that cosby wasn't in that city at that time period

Whenever someone has been wrongly found guilty of a crime, it is because they took a plea deal. There has never been a recorded case in which someone has been found guilty on testimony alone, unless the testimony actually includes evidence

[Drydess]

The point that the statement "What the #MeToo movement is saying is that women are worthy of being believed" should be laughed at and
considered insane. That statement is the embodiment of "listen and believe" which directly contradicts our legal system's idea of "Innocent until proven Guilty"
not "Innocent until we listen and believe"

okay but why should anyone care what one dipstuff lady says about the metoo movement when those actually taking part in it are the ones that shape it...?

[Master Matthew²]

okay but why should anyone care what one dipstuff lady says about the metoo movement when those actually taking part in it are the ones that shape it...?

Because she's a representative that took up that position on TV, and I have yet too see anyone in said movement to call her out or consider or comment
false and incompatible with the US justice system.

[thegoodperry]

Because she's a representative that took up that position on TV, and I have yet too see anyone in said movement to call her out or consider or comment
false and incompatible with the US justice system.

"why arent other people stating the obvious?!"

its because its obvious that your movement's ideals and the justice system are incompatible. nobody in the #metoo movement thinks that bring women in just for the hell of it to testify is going to make a difference. you're misconstruing the movement's main purpose and using it as the point of your entirely unnecessary grudge.

[Drydess]

Because she's a representative that took up that position on TV, and I have yet too see anyone in said movement to call her out or consider or comment
false and incompatible with the US justice system.

okay, and who chose her as a representative for a non-organized movement?? she's obviously some idiot on a power trip trying to appeal to a minority as opposed to a majority

[Master Matthew²]

This is a moot point. You're basically saying "why arent other people stating the obvious?!" but its already proven that its obvious lol.

Because in this case "Not stating the obvious" about an obviously wrong and incompatible belief makes the MeToo movement look idiotic, uncredible and by extension these traits are shared with anyone who identifies themselves to be a part of the #MeToo movement.

[thegoodperry]

Because in this case "Not stating the obvious" about an obviously wrong and incompatible belief makes the MeToo movement look idiotic, uncredible and by extension these traits are shared with anyone who identifies themselves to be a part of the #MeToo movement.

Again you're purposefully misunderstanding the MeToo movement for the sole purpose of making it look idiotic and uncredible. It's called a strawman.

Its like saying "CIA wants to save children and hug bunnies, therefore they're a good organization"
A) that's not what CIA wants to do or is doing at all
B) your personal conclusion is based on the entirely false assumption above

[Master Matthew²]

okay, and who chose her as a representative for a non-organized movement

Is this a trick question?
In a non-organized movement no one chooses representatives.
Representatives are self chosen.

But in response, if a self chosen representative does not act inline with
the core beliefs of a non-organized movement, there should be an outcry from those in said movement.
Otherwise it would seem said movement stands in solidarity with the belief stated.
In this case, the fact this representative was on several news-networks broadcasting that message means
there should have been an equally large backlash if those in the movement disagreed with her statement.