Brett Kavanaugh confirmed for Supreme Court | Was Kavanaugh Guilty? [Poll]

[King Tøny]

Uhhhhhhhhhh.

Half a million?

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[Dreams_Of_Cheese]

The presumption of innocence is a human right (see: Article 11 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights). I would rather not imagine a world in which we return to the barbarism and kangaroo courts of the Salem Witch Trials. Until some sort of credible evidence is levied against him, Kavanaugh is innocent until proven otherwise beyond any reasonable doubt.

The presumption of innocence belongs in a court of law, not a job interview. I'll say it again, if he only might be a rapist, throw him out and get a different guy for your lifetime appointment to the supreme court. You really, really don't want to put the wrong person in that seat. He isn't going to jail. The consequence of him failing to get on the supreme court is that he doesn't get on the supreme court. The necessity for proof is lower because the result of his failure is nothing to him and is plenty for everyone else.

It's not very often that I see something so entirely sophistic and disingenuous that it prompts me to log in and break a two-month hiatus just to respond to it, but here we are.

Great way to start by establishing credibility and maturity. Well done.

frankly im just surprised you think credibility matters on this website at all. should i be taking my blockland forums debates more seriously, do you think?

I don't think that anyone other than Dr. Ford can answer that. What motivation did Crystal Mangum have to lie about three lacrosse players from Duke? What did she have to gain by embroiling herself in an absolute clusterforget of an investigation? Nobody knows for sure. Ford could be seeking attention, or money, or political clout. It's hard to tell until we see how things turn out and how Ford reacts in the coming months.

i believe my friend occam had a razor that had something to say about this

[Dreams_Of_Cheese]

Eh hem, this is basically:
"You have nothing to worry about if you're innocent."
Damn, where have I heard this before

not raping people and having privacy from the government are different things, friend. try again again

[King Tøny]

The presumption of innocence belongs in a court of law, not a job interview.

We've come to a point where a mere accusation can ruin someone's life.

But what happens when someone lies about being raped? Oh they get like a fine, no big deal.

People who falsely accuse others of rape need to be held accountable. A man went to jail for 30 loving years, the woman later admitted she lied. The woman maybe got like 1 year in jail. The loving guy had 30 years in jail.


There is an issue in this country that an accusation alone is enough to forget someone over, why do people risk this? Because the one who gets caught for making false accusations gets literally no repercussions.

[King Tøny]

I believe people who falsely accuse someone of rape should get the same sentence the man who would of been convicted of rape had.

Maybe then people would stop with these false accusations.

[Master Matthew²]

The presumption of innocence belongs in a court of law, not a job interview. I'll say it again, if he only might be a rapist, throw him out and get a different guy for your lifetime appointment to the supreme court. You really, really don't want to put the wrong person in that seat. He isn't going to jail. The consequence of him failing to get on the supreme court is that he doesn't get on the supreme court. The necessity for proof is lower because the result of his failure is nothing to him and is plenty for everyone else.

You might be a rapist too, kiss your future and livelyhood goodbye.

[Dreams_Of_Cheese]

We've come to a point where a mere accusation can ruin someone's life.

But what happens when someone lies about being raped? Oh they get like a fine, no big deal.

People who falsely accuse others of rape need to be held accountable. A man went to jail for 30 loving years, the woman later admitted she lied. The woman maybe got like 1 year in jail. The loving guy had 30 years in jail.


There is an issue in this country that an accusation alone is enough to forget someone over, why do people risk this? Because the one who gets caught for making false accusations gets literally no repercussions.

this isn't some dichotomy. nobody has said that all accusations are right. if this guy were anything but a guy about to be confirmed to the supreme court, i'd agree that this accusation needs more evidence. but, lifetime appoints are garbage and so you need to take everything extremely seriously as indications of character. so the president should find a different guy, and make sure he didn't rape anyone in college this time.

You might be a rapist too, kiss your future and livelyhood goodbye.

you made this post already, i think. how many time am i gonna have to tell you

[King Tøny]

donald Annoying Orange himself was accused of rape of loveual assault.

He's president now.

[Master Matthew²]

you made this post already, i think. how many time am i gonna have to tell you

Tell me what?

[Dreams_Of_Cheese]

Tell me what?

to try again, friend

[beachbum111111]

I mean if it turns out he gets convicted with being a rapist then he goes to jail either way. Being a judge doesn't grant him immunity in the eyes of the law.

[Master Matthew²]

to try again, friend

What? This doesn't even make any sense in this context.
You've lost it.

You have no argument, so your trying to use oneliners to counter my point.

[Tactical Nuke]

it's okay to tell gross lies about people because I mean they're only trying to further their career and fulfill their life goals

[beachbum111111]

I dont think being a judge is anyone's life goal. It's such a weird and archaic system to how the get picked. It's like wanting to be the Pope as a life goal.

[Dreams_Of_Cheese]

I mean if it turns out he gets convicted with being a rapist then he goes to jail either way. Being a judge doesn't grant him immunity in the eyes of the law.

he's not being accused in court. he's testifying in front of congress, but there's no judge and there's no lawyers. i think it's clear enough that there's not enough evidence to convict here, so even if this for some reason did get in front of a judge he still wouldn't go to jail for a crime he might have committed.

it's okay to tell gross lies about people because I mean they're only trying to further their career and fulfill their life goals

and people are callin me disingenuous lmao