I didn't mock Donnie, but I gave him a stuffty attitude when he gave me one.
so many of your problems would be solved by just not getting into arguments in the first place, and especially if you didn't feel the need to be so vitriolic and dismissive in any argument you got yourself into.
if you felt the need to be an starfish at all, you shouldn't be arguing in the first place. you chose to deliberately be as much of an starfish as you thought he was.
In celau's drama I made a point that wasn't even made - and that was not intended to make an argument, and apologized for coming off as trying to incite one.
you have a habit of jumping into arguments you were never invested in to argue points nobody needed to argue.
nobody made the point because it didn't need to be made. everyone already understands why people kept discussing the topic, and having you lecture them like they're five and needed to be talked down to spelled pretty clearly that you either were there solely to take a jab at the "winning side" of the drama, or you just felt like everyone's a child who needs to be sat down and explained to every facet of social interaction. nothing that you provided in that topic was necessary or insightful.
I interact with a lot of people from this community that I'd consider respectable people and get along with them well, so I disagree with you "pain in the ass for everyone" point.
if you look at the thread most people were trying to move on, and some told donnie to just relax; I said it was irrelevant and should be dropped when it got dragged out and Donnie wouldn't shut the hell up about it.
most people have enough sense not to go down that rabbit hole. respectable people aren't saints that love everyone, it's just less frustrating to put up with it than it is to tell you off. less frustrating to tell donnie to stop feeding you than it is to tell you to stop arguing with everyone for the sake of it.
Also it's not really up to you as to what points are allowed to be made and when either, I don't think it's up to anyone.
you're right, it's not up to me to make people (not) do anything and unfortunately, the most i can do is tell you why your points shouldn't be made. which is exactly what i did in celau's drama, and exactly what i'm doing now. the fact that you even have to say this is pretty strongly indicative that you
want to continue arguing, including with me right now. you can say i'm potentially strawmanning, but i have some pretty solid reason to believe that your intention is to argue for the sake of it (or similar reason).
I didn't brush anybody off as irrelevant either.
let someone else argue about this one mate. you brought up a PM from 5 months ago on a resolved issue that was annoying other users just to have a new topic to argue about.
I brought that up to make the point that you take to other forms of reaching people to continue your arguments, here you are proving that again. Don't take this out of context man.
in which you deliberately bring up a months-old argument that was intended to bring an argument
off the forums, for the sole purpose of putting it back
on the forums, then try to brush it off as irrelevant in another topic in which you made a completely ridiculous argument that reads very similarly to trying to incite
another argument when the original argument was brought up to show you that you should not be arguing about things if you can't stop being provocative about them
ironically, he wasn't even the one taking it out of context --
you took it out of context by saying that he was only doing it to pester you. he was putting it back into context for you. you're the one who brought it up five months later to make him look like he harasses people for the sole sake of harassing people.
He wasn't 'calling me out' and nobody else was either, he was trying to incite the argument after I made it pretty clear I wanted to drop it and basically forced me to reply by citing some random forgeter on Reddit as me.
he was going out of his way to argue something he researched and provided sources for. you, on the other hand, clearly stated that you were trying to be an starfish to him
... and added a snotty "more easy kills for me cause I use keyboard and am better than you" comment.
and at no point were you "forced" to reply to him at all. you chose to continue, knowing full well you, yourself, egged him on. you could've stopped at any time; hell, you didn't even need to start the argument in the first place.
if you really want donnie to stop "obsessing over" you, stop provoking him. he isn't a saint, i'll tell you that much, but you being an argumentative, toxic twat isn't going to make anything better. |
