Author Topic: Sleep/Donnie  (Read 1925 times)

donnie can be a twat at times butyou spend so much time theorising and telling people that they're looking to be right all the time in an argument, yet you can't control yourself in nearly any discussion you include yourself in by your own admission.  so many of your problems would be solved by just not getting into arguments in the first place, and especially if you didn't feel the need to be so vitriolic and dismissive in any argument you got yourself into.  you dig your own hole, almost every time, and yet you're surprised every time someone cares enough to call you out on it.
> this topic
> mocks donnie; says the argument is irrelevant when he gets stuff on for it
not only is this argument entirely relevant considering you deliberately intended to mock him, your entire argumentative-for-the-sake-of-arguing personality is put on a pedestal and you wonder why this random man from the netherlands seems so annoyed with you in particular
except he's entirely right; you have a habit of jumping into arguments you were never invested in to argue points nobody needed to argue.  he's telling you you're not the kind of person who should be arguing on these topics, considering you can't stand the idea of arguing in private instead of airing your dirty laundry and try to brush off everyone who calls you out for it as irrelevant.  evidently, the message didn't get through to you, considering you still feel the need to fight about it to the point that you need to make an entire drama on him that's almost entirely predicated on him calling you out on your bullstuff

frankly, if anyone's
it's you yourself; you spend countless hours peppering all your arguments with snide comments and dismissive strawmanning, making points nobody even needed to make, insulting whichever "side" of an argument looked more in the right, and generally being a pain in the ass for everyone who interacts with you.  you are not the right person to be making this drama, because all of the issues and arguments you present were a direct result of your own ignorant and provocative actions.

for your own and everyone else's sake,
I didn't mock Donnie, but I gave him a stuffty attitude when he gave me one.  I said I do well with a controller, he said I'm worse off using one, and I tried to argue as to why that isn't the case.

Argument I was never invested in? In celau's drama I made a point that wasn't even made - and that was not intended to make an argument, and apologized for coming off as trying to incite one.

I don't think it was ignorant nor proactive. I interact with a lot of people from this community that I'd consider respectable people and get along with them well, so I disagree with you "pain in the ass for everyone" point. Also it's not really up to you as to what points are allowed to be made and when either, I don't think it's up to anyone. I didn't brush anybody off as irrelevant either. He wasn't 'calling me out' and nobody else was either, he was trying to incite the argument after I made it pretty clear I wanted to drop it and basically forced me to reply by citing some random forgeter on Reddit as me.

drama made by a troglodyte against a bonehead who takes titty pills. who will win?
Jesus what is wrong with you? Donnies personal life isn't relevant one bit dude

i dont take titty pills

My comment about this stuff ending is referring to when it initially started Powerdag; I didn't say the argument was irrelevant when I got 'stuff on for it', if you look at the thread most people were trying to move on, and some told donnie to just relax; I said it was irrelevant and should be dropped when it got dragged out and Donnie wouldn't shut the hell up about it.


edd is actually a furry supporter and a trans-ally?

yasss queen!
no wtf

That’s the tea, sis

i dont take titty pills
Damn my ultimate plan to swap them out with cyanide wont work

I didn't mock Donnie, but I gave him a stuffty attitude when he gave me one.
so many of your problems would be solved by just not getting into arguments in the first place, and especially if you didn't feel the need to be so vitriolic and dismissive in any argument you got yourself into.
if you felt the need to be an starfish at all, you shouldn't be arguing in the first place.  you chose to deliberately be as much of an starfish as you thought he was.

In celau's drama I made a point that wasn't even made - and that was not intended to make an argument, and apologized for coming off as trying to incite one.
you have a habit of jumping into arguments you were never invested in to argue points nobody needed to argue.
nobody made the point because it didn't need to be made.  everyone already understands why people kept discussing the topic, and having you lecture them like they're five and needed to be talked down to spelled pretty clearly that you either were there solely to take a jab at the "winning side" of the drama, or you just felt like everyone's a child who needs to be sat down and explained to every facet of social interaction.  nothing that you provided in that topic was necessary or insightful.

I interact with a lot of people from this community that I'd consider respectable people and get along with them well, so I disagree with you "pain in the ass for everyone" point.
if you look at the thread most people were trying to move on, and some told donnie to just relax; I said it was irrelevant and should be dropped when it got dragged out and Donnie wouldn't shut the hell up about it.
most people have enough sense not to go down that rabbit hole.  respectable people aren't saints that love everyone, it's just less frustrating to put up with it than it is to tell you off.  less frustrating to tell donnie to stop feeding you than it is to tell you to stop arguing with everyone for the sake of it.

Also it's not really up to you as to what points are allowed to be made and when either, I don't think it's up to anyone.
you're right, it's not up to me to make people (not) do anything and unfortunately, the most i can do is tell you why your points shouldn't be made.  which is exactly what i did in celau's drama, and exactly what i'm doing now.  the fact that you even have to say this is pretty strongly indicative that you want to continue arguing, including with me right now.  you can say i'm potentially strawmanning, but i have some pretty solid reason to believe that your intention is to argue for the sake of it (or similar reason).

I didn't brush anybody off as irrelevant either.
let someone else argue about this one mate. you brought up a PM from 5 months ago on a resolved issue that was annoying other users just to have a new topic to argue about.
I brought that up to make the point that you take to other forms of reaching people to continue your arguments, here you are proving that again. Don't take this out of context man.
in which you deliberately bring up a months-old argument that was intended to bring an argument off the forums, for the sole purpose of putting it back on the forums, then try to brush it off as irrelevant in another topic in which you made a completely ridiculous argument that reads very similarly to trying to incite another argument when the original argument was brought up to show you that you should not be arguing about things if you can't stop being provocative about them

ironically, he wasn't even the one taking it out of context -- you took it out of context by saying that he was only doing it to pester you.  he was putting it back into context for you.  you're the one who brought it up five months later to make him look like he harasses people for the sole sake of harassing people.

He wasn't 'calling me out' and nobody else was either, he was trying to incite the argument after I made it pretty clear I wanted to drop it and basically forced me to reply by citing some random forgeter on Reddit as me.
he was going out of his way to argue something he researched and provided sources for.  you, on the other hand, clearly stated that you were trying to be an starfish to him
... and added a snotty "more easy kills for me cause I use keyboard and am better than you" comment.
and at no point were you "forced" to reply to him at all.  you chose to continue, knowing full well you, yourself, egged him on.  you could've stopped at any time; hell, you didn't even need to start the argument in the first place.

if you really want donnie to stop "obsessing over" you, stop provoking him.  he isn't a saint, i'll tell you that much, but you being an argumentative, toxic twat isn't going to make anything better.

edd is actually a furry supporter and a trans-ally?

yasss queen!
bro. edd said trans rights :DDDD

guys I think this guys bad guys I don't like this guy

youre an idiot mr bones

nobody made the point because it didn't need to be made.  everyone already understands why people kept discussing the topic, and having you lecture them like they're five and needed to be talked down to spelled pretty clearly that you either were there solely to take a jab at the "winning side" of the drama, or you just felt like everyone's a child who needs to be sat down and explained to every facet of social interaction.  nothing that you provided in that topic was necessary or insightful.
Or, or... maybe I made the point because I wanted to make it?!? You're making it out as if I think everyone is below me and is stupid so I have to spell it out for them, which isn't the case at all. I made the point because I thought the bashing of an already gone user is pointless. If it were anything other than that, I would have said so. It wasn't taking a jab at anyone either, go back and read the thread. I didn't talk down to anybody there either.

most people have enough sense not to go down that rabbit hole.  respectable people aren't saints that love everyone, it's just less frustrating to put up with it than it is to tell you off.  less frustrating to tell donnie to stop feeding you than it is to tell you to stop arguing with everyone for the sake of it.
You're really suggesting anyone I interact with here just put up with me, we aren't actually friends? That's not true and you're an starfish for suggesting that.

you're right, it's not up to me to make people (not) do anything and unfortunately, the most i can do is tell you why your points shouldn't be made.  which is exactly what i did in celau's drama, and exactly what i'm doing now.  the fact that you even have to say this is pretty strongly indicative that you want to continue arguing, including with me right now.  you can say i'm potentially strawmanning, but i have some pretty solid reason to believe that your intention is to argue for the sake of it (or similar reason).
Telling someone not to make a point because you think it is obvious is different than telling me to not make the point because I believe I'm smarter than everyone and I need to spell it out for them. I will accept the first one and just say "Okay dag you're right, my bad" but the latter is just bullstuff in my eyes. I already stated in the thread and have stated to you a few times that I did not intend to incite anything and apologized in the thread, but you're still falling back to that inciting a fight was indeed my intention. Irony.

in which you deliberately bring up a months-old argument that was intended to bring an argument off the forums, for the sole purpose of putting it back on the forums, then try to brush it off as irrelevant in another topic in which you made a completely ridiculous argument that reads very similarly to trying to incite another argument when the original argument was brought up to show you that you should not be arguing about things if you can't stop being provocative about them
You didn't read that thread at all did you? I cited that as a source that Donnie tries to incite stuff further by reaching out through other forms of communication. And yeah, he does harass people, or me and Vigil at least, did you not see the post Vigil made? And he's the one who brought that stuff up again there, not me - hell you're even subliminally admitting that by citing that quote showing that HE brought it up again. Explain again how I'm responsible for him deciding to do that?

Wanna know why that's the only PM I posted? Because I ignored him, so he didn't do any more. By 'resolved issue' Donnie means 'he stopped replying so I win'. And why did you cite the quote about me saying I didn't shrug anyone off as irrelevant? What Donnie posted wasn't relevant and also was just plain wrong because I did not intend my post in Celau's drama to incite a fight. And the thing he cited of us in the Apex thread was not doing that either, try reading it again:
No I don't. I apologized to Vigil and while I was at it asked if he'd want to add me on some things so we can play Apex, for that is this threads purpose. You on the other hand pry at people for the sake of continuing the argument. And there is a difference between messaging someone so you don't continue to stuff up the thread, and doing this:



Wow, what a charmer! Vigil's earlier post made it pretty clear you contact people elsewhere for the sake of stirring stuff. What's it going to take to make you piss off Donnie?

he was going out of his way to argue something he researched and provided sources for.  you, on the other hand, clearly stated that you were trying to be an starfish to him
and at no point were you "forced" to reply to him at all.  you chose to continue, knowing full well you, yourself, egged him on.  you could've stopped at any time; hell, you didn't even need to start the argument in the first place.
Nice strawman forgetface, I said I gave him a stuffty/sarcastic attitude when he gave me one. Notice in the thread how he devolves to insults multiple times, and I don't, and made a point about this. Again, did you read the thread?

Wait let me get this straight: I block Donnie on Discord because I'm done arguing with him (at this point the thread is re-railed, I stopped posting). Despite me making it explicitly clear I am done via blocking him he goes into the now re-railed thread and derails it again, posting an update of me blocking him and then going onto cite sources for his argument and what not. He falsely cites some random reddit user in one of his sources as me, which is done intentionally so I'm forced to reply and keep going with this (proven in his snarky "that isn't you? OOOooo" in reply to me clarifying that person he cited is not me). Some how, some way, this is ME egging him on? Me blocking Donnie and no longer posting in the thread means I WANT to continue??? You're loving retarded and delusional LMAO




can we at least agree that donnie and op are both pretty dumb