Politics Thread 2? Who are you voting for in November? (USA Only)

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Who are you voting for in 2020?

Annoying Orange
23 (28%)
Joe Biden (HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA)
22 (26.8%)
Vermin Supreme
10 (12.2%)
Bernie, he can still win guys.
11 (13.4%)
The Meteor.
16 (19.5%)

Total Members Voted: 82

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Bernie Sanders can still win :cookie:

what could distract people who're into politics?

Annoying Orange, Annoying Orange, Annoying Orange!

>You're being pretty hyperbolic.
fair

>Private security is already used in many places around the world, including America.
usually private security is used for evil forces (for example, plantation owners would use private security in the times of slavery, banana companies using it in mexican countries, etc etc) and also pretty expensive

>No matter how strict of a police state you live in, safety is always going to be your own responsibility, and police are always going to be a tertiary preventative measure against violent crime.
lamof what even supports this? it takes like a basic study or a tiny bit of logic to see that police forces decrease crime in the location they're in

>The irony is that in some places in America people ARE armed to the teeth with kevlar and shotguns because their local "highly trained scrutinized government team" takes hours to respond to active home invasions.
so the solution is to decrease the response times even more? and get rid of the countless passive and long-term benefits that the police have? police officers aren't only there to stop current crimes from continuing, but also to prevent crimes preemptively and provide a general feeling of security to people. besides, places that have people "armed to the teeth" are usually also the places that get school shootings, and that's WITH the threat of the law.

>The argument for private security doesn't solely come from a place of mistrust in police, it has it's own benefits not limited to much faster response times.
fair but that doesn't mean we can just wipe police out

>The police can remain as a government organization, as we're not advocating for anarchy.
except a lot of people are? see: the autonomous zone (which ironically but expectantly starved in 2 days).

>They can be an interface for the judicial system and will have the power to oversee private institutions to make sure they're not acting out of bounds of the law or constitution
there are already parts of the government for this but ok

>but the police street enforcer is an obsolete/outdated concept that clearly needs to be improved on.
are you gonna give any evidence to support this utterly idiotic claim?

usually private security is used for evil forces
"The police can remain as a government organization...They can be an interface for the judicial system and will have the power to oversee private institutions to make sure they're not acting out of bounds of the law or constitution,"

Btw police literally evolved out of slavery

lamof what even supports this? it takes like a basic study or a tiny bit of logic to see that police forces decrease crime in the location they're in
This is because they do a reasonably good job of preventing repeat offenses (tertiary prevention); I.E. after you're stabbed to death in the street for your wallet, your murderer may go to prison, thus preventing them from committing more crimes in that area. You're still dead. Safety is your responsibility.

so the solution is to decrease the response times even more? and get rid of the countless passive and long-term benefits that the police have? police officers aren't only there to stop current crimes from continuing, but also to prevent crimes preemptively and provide a general feeling of security to people. besides, places that have people "armed to the teeth" are usually also the places that get school shootings, and that's WITH the threat of the law.
Private security are often acclaimed to have better response times and provide a better sense of security. School shootings are a terrible example to bring up while defending PD response times.

The best defense is one that doesn't need to be used. Neighborhoods and business that are protected by their own security are very rarely the targets of crime.

fair but that doesn't mean we can just wipe police out
"The police can remain as a government organization...They can be an interface for the judicial system and will have the power to oversee private institutions to make sure they're not acting out of bounds of the law or constitution,"

there are already parts of the government for this but ok
"The police can remain as a government organization"
The operative word here is "remain"

are you gonna give any evidence to support this utterly idiotic claim?

you know what forget it it's not like y'all will listen to reason so imma just stop opening this thread up


Wait so has the forum come full circle and is arguing for a mcpolice force now?

i didnt know what i expected when i opened a new politics thread by master matthew, but i definitely didnt expect it to be this entertaining

lol Annoying Orange said there's an aids vaccine

lol Annoying Orange said there's an aids vaccine

There is, but I sold the rights to Epstein back in 2017 for some elite child soldiers so who loving knows where that shipment is now.

probably Annoying Orange. ICE keeps losing kids

You might want to keep that to yourself and pipe down. Master Mathew glows in the dark.

> Who are you voting for in November?
What does it matter? Will it really change anything?
No. No it won't.
Stop worrying over politics you'll NEVER be able to influence and instead be good to the people around you, your community, family and friends. Only this is the one true ascended political position.
bro the riots literally got minneapolis to commit to replacing their police force and got all of the involved cops arrested. that JUST happened. how u gonna forget already
however if ur point was solely that voting is useless then you might be onto something


bro the riots literally got minneapolis to commit to replacing their police force and got all of the involved cops arrested. that JUST happened. how u gonna forget already
however if ur point was solely that voting is useless then you might be onto something
Replacing it with what? And why disband before coming up with a replacement?