Where do we draw the line? Pretty simple answer: People who are suicidal/depressed/unable or struggling to function as a normal person in society.
Ok so literally advocate for
psych evaluations, not if the person is trans LOL
I don't understand why the forget you have to discriminate against a population that has a bunch of people who normally function in society. The fact that a large portion of them are bullied into mental health problems doesn't justify excluding the vast majority of them. Their transness doesn't imply they have mental health problems.
40% doesn't imply 100%, and we shouldn't treat the 60% as such.This is the same logic the kool kids klub used for segregation, quoting bunk IQ statistics about black people saying that most of them are dumber therefore unfit for higher education (which is untrue and widely debunked). Even
if it was true, it doesn't imply we should treat them all differently.
Also yeah I did read the article, literally says in the first sentence "The 2015 U.S. Transgender Survey claims that 11% of female respondents regret surgery enough to change back to their original love.".
Again, can you loving read? That lines source in that article is the study I posted. You implied that 11% female respondent regret is the same as the overall regret. I was clarifying that the "regret" is
overwhelmingly from social factors they face related to their transition and not the transition itself. It's abundantly clear if you read the report that people don't transition and then regret it horribly because they aren't trans or deranged.
I don't care that hormones "alleviate symptoms of gender dysphoria", I said hormones in themselves have side effects and often mess with emotional state.
Literally every other loving medicine forgets with you in some way dude, anything from birth control (which a lot of people take regularly) to insulin.
Do diabetics and women get yeeted out from the military? Literally no, because we scan for people who don't pass the psych test instead of not accepting ALL women or ALL diabetics. They are evaluated on a case-by-case basis not on their conditions or how they where born.
De-transitioning and regretting their loveual reassignment surgery are not the same thing, good job misinterpreting me again.
You still haven't read the report, I talked about detransitionning because you brought up regret:
Transitioning vs. transitioned aren't much different either, both are still highly unstable. And more than 10 percent of MTF transgenders (a majority of the transgender community) regret their gender reassignment surgery entirely.
You implied that since people regret their transition, they are mentally unstable and I showed that your source for that points out that people regret it because of social pressure. To further prove my point, I go on to say that detransitionning is absurdly rare.
You're main source for that argument doesn't support your claim.
"I don't care if they are active duty or retired" well you should cause it's relevant to the point.
I said "I don't care if they are active duty or retired" because my argument is:
"Overall, trans people wouldn't cost the military much compared to spending they already do"
and they already pay 84 million for viagra. If trans people are reincluded in the military, they will pay for their hormones even if they aren't serving and that amount still comes out to a drop in the bucket.
Troons aren't good for the military and a large portion aren't mentally stable enough to be suited for it. Stop pretending everyone is equal and capable when they are not.
I am literally not saying
everyone is equal.you are indirectly making this argument by saying every trans person is equally mentally ill, which is undoutably not the case.
you are painting a wide brush to all of the trans community.
if you actually cared about "having military members that are mentally fit to serve" you would advocate for psych evaluations and not blanket bans on entire swaths of the population and you wouldn't be explicitly calling them slurs.