TF2 external idlers get stuff removed

[ChexGuy331]

Well, you'll still get items removed ._.

What're you, dumb? The old idle method is in-game idling.

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[Marcem]

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Holy stuff, Yuki, I think you have some issues. 
1. That's good reasoning of why it's cheating.  You're "playing" when it's impossible, so it's a cheap advantage.
2. Exactly!  But you're making that chance higher by faking playing.
3. Yes you do influence it.  By playing, you actually DO get the chance.  You don't unlock weapons for not playing. 
4. That examining is clearly biased.

[ChexGuy331]

You don't unlock weapons for not playing. 

You're saying we cheated because we DID unlock weapons by not playing. Honestly Marcem, what the forget are you trying to prove?

[Dropshock]

Holy stuff, Yuki, I think you have some issues. 
1. That's good reasoning of why it's cheating.  You're "playing" when it's impossible, so it's a cheap advantage.
2. Exactly!  But you're making that chance higher by faking playing.
3. Yes you do influence it.  By playing, you actually DO get the chance.  You don't unlock weapons for not playing. 
4. That examining is clearly biased.

OH MY loving GOD. WHAT THE forget ARE YOU TRYING TO PROVE?
not-so-much-edit: oh damn chexguy

[Marcem]

That you cheated. 

[Zenith]

inb4pandan

[ChexGuy331]

It's not exactly cheating.

My computer sucks ass. It takes too long to start up TF2. However, if I get it up, I might not feel like playing, but I still want the items, I can leave the game on in an empty server, in spec mode. This is idling. However, like I said, it takes too long to start up TF2. The idler is quicker, but is still the same as "leaving the game on in an empty server, in spec mode."

[Marcem]

Wow, you people don't get it.  Even that is cheating, chex. 

[Nepthan]

Everyone who didnt idle got an angel's halo hat 

[yuki]

Holy stuff, Yuki, I think you have some issues. 
1. That's good reasoning of why it's cheating.  You're "playing" when it's impossible, so it's a cheap advantage.
2. Exactly!  But you're making that chance higher by faking playing.
3. Yes you do influence it.  By playing, you actually DO get the chance.  You don't unlock weapons for not playing. 
4. That examining is clearly biased.

I don't know half of what you're talking about seeing as you're throwing out a numbered list without any apparent target, so I'll simply respond to your ass-handicapped idea on what influencing a a system based on chance is:

You're not making the chance HIGHER by playing. You ALWAYS have the SAME chance to find something. It's RANDOM.
Influencing it means turning the odds in your favor. You can influence a chess game by killing the queen, or a war by atom-bombing a city. You can't influence something you have no direct control over.
By simply playing more, you have more time alotted in which you could find something, but it's still random. You could do nothing for 4 hours, or play the game for four hours. Both allow you the same time in which you might get something, but you have no say in it. The idle player could find everything and the player nothing. It's not a fair system, it's not a good system. It doesn't decide who gets what based on what they do, it just rolls the dice.

You don't unlock weapons for not playing.

Yes you do, which is bullstuff. I didn't idle because I don't want to play the game. Have I made it clear enough that I want to earn my items, not have it decided for me entirely at random?
By the way, #4 doesn't make any sense. I suggest you stop trying to combine long words.

Wow, you people don't get it.  Even that is cheating, chex.  

No, it's not. Stop being so loving dense.

Everyone who didnt idle got an angel's halo hat 

It's ugly, even people who have it can agree 

[Marcem]

I wonder if I still got one.  It had to validate my files.  That would be cool, three years and two weeks from now.

[DracoSoul]

Eh

I don't care. I got the baker boy hat literally 10 minutes before the update, and that's the only loss. Halo sucks anyway.

[Nepthan]

I think valve was a little harsh with the punishment they gave out, but it was fair...
pls 2 give me halo

[kakashi11]

meh, over it, only thing i'm still pissed about is increase hat drop rate

[Marcem]

I don't know half of what you're talking about seeing as you're throwing out a numbered list without any apparent target, so I'll simply respond to your ass-handicapped idea on what influencing a a system based on chance is:

You're not making the chance HIGHER by playing. You ALWAYS have the SAME chance to find something. It's RANDOM.
Influencing it means turning the odds in your favor. You can influence a chess game by killing the queen, or a war by atom-bombing a city. You can't influence something you have no direct control over.
By simply playing more, you have more time alotted in which you could find something, but it's still random. You could do nothing for 4 hours, or play the game for four hours. Both allow you the same time in which you might get something, but you have no say in it. The idle player could find everything and the player nothing. It's not a fair system, it's not a good system. It doesn't decide who gets what based on what they do, it just rolls the dice.Yes you do, which is bullstuff. I didn't idle because I don't want to play the game. Have I made it clear enough that I want to earn my items, not have it decided for me entirely at random?
By the way, #4 doesn't make any sense. I suggest you stop trying to combine long words.No, it's not. Stop being so loving dense.It's ugly, even people who have it can agree 

Yes, leaving a loving game on without playing it to MAKE YOU ABLE TO GET THE loving WEAPONS IN THE FIRST PLACE ISN'T CHEATING.
Cheating:

An act of deception, fraud, trickery, imposture, or imposition.

Yeah, I think that counts.  Yuki, you don't seem to understand what I was meaning by playing, I meant having the game booted and on a server.