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Ok, but that could have been achieved by just saying "evil scum" or even inserting more specific language regarding the political ideologies at play here.

Imagine if this thread were also denouncing the active genocide also occurring in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and you said the same thing but substituted "Jew" for "Black". You might have intended to specifically imply the forces fighting on behalf of Chinese and Western mining investment groups, but that is not at all what comes across from the specific words you chose to use.
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my comment only applies to the ones who are spitting at & committing violence against innocent people
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So I know I should know better than to expect even an ounce of nuance out of anyone here but let me be more specific:

Yes, The State of Israel is a tribal apartheid settler colony. Good job acknowledging that.

However,
evil jew scum
is an inherently anti-semitic statement.
The moment you bring religion and ethnicity into the criticism, you open the floodgates for those dumbasses who equate anti-zionism with anti-semitism.

There is a large portion of Jewish folks around the world, including in Israel, who oppose the atrocities being committed.
It is hard to believe that you are so obtuse as to not see the difference between legitimate criticism and what you said.
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Israel is a tribal, Supremacist State:

https://youtu.be/5JzGzyaUnz0

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Off Topic / Re: Civ Div
« Last post by Satan From Wreck-It-Ralph on Yesterday at 09:51:14 PM »
do you think he was an ACM city guy or more of a beta city guy
afghanistan dm
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Off Topic / Re: Civ Div
« Last post by Camel on Yesterday at 08:10:25 PM »
do you think he was an ACM city guy or more of a beta city guy
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Off Topic / Re: Civ Div
« Last post by Ladios on Yesterday at 06:21:27 PM »
Yup, you've convinced me that it is entirely impossible for anyone to change their worldview under any circumstance.
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Off Topic / Re: Civ Div
« Last post by ultimamax on Yesterday at 01:20:56 PM »
As a staunch anti-imperialist myself, I of course denounce the military industrial complex and the horrors we have committed as a nation at the behest of the multi-national corporations attempting to acquire new land for development or resource exploitation.

That said, many of the veterans I have met (and this may just be because of the bias of my own experience and people I associate with) have come from backgrounds that either left them with little other prospects to afford a higher education than a military scholarship, or grew up in families that supported imperialism to such an extent that they felt it was their civic duty to fight on behalf of our nation.
i dont think you are owed a higher education if it comes at the expense of random brown peoples' lives

Of these people, all of them have grown disillusioned when actually interacting with the people overseas and learning first hand the nuanced experience in a way that none of us civilians would be able to articulate, even if we were to travel abroad ourselves.
dumbass

we should be very skeptical of US military or veteran "anti-war leftists". having vocally different politics alone doesn't make somebody like that any more trustworthy. theyve already shown you who they are
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Off Topic / Re: Civ Div
« Last post by Drydess on Yesterday at 02:08:09 AM »
Personally if i were handicapped or poor i would simply work at a fast food joint that has the exact same benefits as the US military instead of getting iced by a guy whose wife was killed by my poor or handicapped dad while my own wife is sitting pretty with the plumber
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Off Topic / Re: Civ Div
« Last post by Drydess on Yesterday at 01:56:02 AM »
As a staunch anti-imperialist myself, I of course denounce the military industrial complex and the horrors we have committed as a nation at the behest of the multi-national corporations attempting to acquire new land for development or resource exploitation.

That said, many of the veterans I have met (and this may just be because of the bias of my own experience and people I associate with) have come from backgrounds that either left them with little other prospects to afford a higher education than a military scholarship, or grew up in families that supported imperialism to such an extent that they felt it was their civic duty to fight on behalf of our nation. Of these people, all of them have grown disillusioned when actually interacting with the people overseas and learning first hand the nuanced experience in a way that none of us civilians would be able to articulate, even if we were to travel abroad ourselves. All of the ones I know who have been in direct combat have stated how they regret what they had to do to stay alive in a situation where they would rather have talked it out. They are the ones who first hand could verify that we are fighting not just statistics but actual people who are driven through ideology or necessity to strike back against our troops. Upon returning home, they unanimously (the ones I know personally at least) have been driven from their conservative and/or centrist beliefs to strongly anti-war leftists.

Unfortunately our government is still doing its best to keep the pipeline to joining the military open, but fewer and fewer recruits are swayed each year. Hence this year they have announced a recall of all veterans under 50 years old to mandatorily re-enlist, even those who have since become jaded and realised what a stuffshow this all is.

All that is to say, the question of people "voluntarily" joining the armed forces is much less black and white than you are saying.

Except for PMCs.
Anyone who joins Academi/Blackwater or the like is absolute scum and just doing it for the pay check and to look cool getting all the top-end gear.
yawn
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