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That's also an interesting topic.

The Moon is really awesome, also Jupiter. And holy forget thank you Teja.

Time is a human invention, have fun with that

Race is a human concept also.

Race is a human concept also.
I'll think of that the next time I watch sports on TV

I'll think of that the next time I watch sports on TV

SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST BORN WITH BETTER JUMPING SKILLS, MOST OF THEM COINCIDENTALLY ALSO HAVE DARK SKIN.

Ethics

What is right or wrong.

By far the most vanilla ethics question in existence, but I'll throw in my two cents.

To me, I believe the philosopher John Locke laid a pretty easy foundation for answering this question. Right and wrong exists, consistent with Locke I believe that we are all entitled two three basic rights: Life, Liberty, and Protection of Property, and that the government exists to ensure we maintain those rights. Our right to life is more important than that of liberty, and liberty more so than property. For example:

Stealing is wrong because you are violating someone else's right to property, slavery is wrong because it's taking someone's right to liberty, murder is wrong because it violates someones right to life. Doing crack cocaine is wrong, because it without a doubt contributes to an early death, and it's robbing a human being of its right to life. Now, because life is more important than liberty, you cannot do cocaine. Since it's the governments job to protect these rights, they have the right to take away your liberty to kill yourself with drugs if it means preserving your right to life.

Also from Rousseau I believe that these three rights hold true regardless of what anyone says or thinks.

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That's an impressive answer.

Stealing is wrong because you are violating someone else's right to property, slavery is wrong because it's taking someone's right to liberty, murder is wrong because it violates someones right to life. Doing crack cocaine is wrong, because it without a doubt contributes to an early death, and it's robbing a human being of its right to life. Now, because life is more important than liberty, you cannot do cocaine. Since it's the governments job to protect these rights, they have the right to take away your liberty to kill yourself with drugs if it means preserving your right to life.

Olol god damn it haha



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Stop ending your stupid posts with characters you copy-pasted from google translate you weeaboo

Race is a human concept also.
No, it's a biological concept. Races are not just distinguished by amount of melanin in the skin, there are anthropological differences as well. Race is a result of the same species adapting in different locations.

Doing crack cocaine is wrong, because it without a doubt contributes to an early death, and it's robbing a human being of its right to life.
I disagree entirely - If making choices that could inevitably lead to an early death be a choice of ethics, then every person who has ever had fast food or caffeine is of negative moral stature purely because their decisions may lead to their lifespan being shorter. But then, can people not value their own lives differently? What about stunt men who, through their own choices, put their life in jeopardy every day? Same with policemen and soldiers, or people who work in factories or offices? There's an infinite amount of things that can lead to an early death, so is the goal of life to live as long as you can? But you can't control how long your life is anyway, old people are old purely out of luck, luck that they didn't get cancer or get caught by the Vietcong or didn't breathe enough asbestos or they didn't fall out of an 18th story window when they were a baby. Your answer here makes no sense in more than one way. An inanimate object can not "do" anything, and you can't rob yourself of something you already own. The government has no right to dictate what people can or cannot do with their bodies, mind, or soul unless it crosses the line and starts affecting other people. My doing drugs or eating stuffty food is not up to the government.

If doing cocaine makes you happy and doesn't hurt anyone else, then it's not a negative moral decision. It contributing to an early death is irrelevant, because almost everything contributes to an early death. You're philosophizing backwards here, you're conceiving a reason to supplement a decision you've already made, that cocaine is "bad", and that's corrupt reasoning.

they have the right to take away your liberty to kill yourself with drugs if it means preserving your right to life.
So we have a right to life, but not death? So if I'm not happy with my life, I can't threaten or end it? That's illegal? What about Johnny from "Johnny Got His Gun" or countless other war victims and vegetables who want nothing more than for their lives to end because they've simply become breathing statues. Unmoving, in pain, screaming and no one can hear them. Then there's people too distraught to want to live, knowing their lives are going to be full of disappointment and misery and all they can look forward to is growing too old to do anything they wanted to do when they were young, taking out their anguish on neighbor kids playing soccer in their front lawn.

Everyone has the right to life and death, as long as they do not harm another person or rob them of their life. Satisfaction does not come with living to be 100, at least for most people. I'd rather live until 55 and see/done all I possibly could in my life. Die happy, not old.

I live to see what becomes of the world

Also from Rousseau I believe that these three rights hold true regardless of what anyone says or thinks.

Rousseau, however, was against the ideal of owning "Property" and also saw the government as a necessary evil, I know you didn't do this, but using his name to argue that stealing property is wrong isn't exactly the best thing you can do. However, I think he did support the concept of liberty and life that you mentioned though.

Stop ending your stupid posts with characters you copy-pasted from google translate you weeaboo
Thank you

The government has no right to dictate what people can or cannot do with their bodies, mind, or soul unless it crosses the line and starts affecting other people.
But something like crack does affect other people.

What about Johnny from "Johnny Got His Gun"
I thought I was  the only person who watched this movie.

But something like crack does affect other people.
No it doesn't, it's not like cigarettes where people in the area become intoxicated. If you mean the person being intoxicated and being a douche, that's just him being a douche, same goes for people who get drunk in public.

No it doesn't, it's not like cigarettes where people in the area become intoxicated. If you mean the person being intoxicated and being a douche, that's just him being a douche, same goes for people who get drunk in public.

But its the intoxication that allows them to be a douche, in a clear frame of mind most people would hold that back.