Author Topic: The (Near) Solution to Build Stealing  (Read 5184 times)

this would be useless, as it would need a clientsided part, which people could just delete and save without it

No it can't. It's just one of those 'what if' things, where in the case that someone actually does find a way to disable saving, he would crap-on the add-on and probably protect some of the save functions.
Theoretically, if he disabled certain client side functions and methods, specifically those that get the details of individual bricks, he could disable client side saving, or enable it by reactivating them. It could also be set up as the server's decision, for example, by making it impossible to get the type of brick from a ghosted object, and retrieving such information by requesting it from the server.

However, through scripting, yeah, it's doubtful there is a way to do this, and there definitely isn't one he can't make impossible.

It would be nice if people who knew how to script didn't try to break the principles of the game, or design scripts to exploit and abuse the game, because that just leads to less modding functionality when Badspot disables things. We can't change the names above the heads of players or bots because some jackasses used it to impersonate other people.

Ownership brick.

Choose a random but memorable brick, event it to give your name and BLID or whatever when clicked in a chat message.

Done.

Alright, right now we can join any server, ghost for a bit, then save and it's yours.  But what if we need trust to save people's build?  Like, if you save on a server but you don't have someone's trust it won't show up in the save.

For example, let's say I build a house and some random guy builds a tree.  The guy saves his build on my server and goes to single player to load it.  Only the tree will appear because he doesn't have my full trust.

Discuss.
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There already is an option for this it's called "single player".  But seriously no one gives a ice cream about your ice creamty builds so please just play the goddamn game the way it is or panda off and play something else.

Listen up noobs, saving is here to stay.  If you can't handle someone else playing with your build, grow the hell up.

If you start doing gay ice cream to break my game, I'm going to start banning you from the master server.  This is a war you don't want to start because I'm the only one with nukes.

If you don't want people "stealing" your builds, put a password on your server or play in single player mode.

Then you'll have to deal with people saving your builds then.  It's a core feature of the game.  This whole topic is as dumb as those javascript crap things that try to stop you from saving images in your browser.  People like to save builds so they can look at them locally and play with them later, or maybe add on to them on their own server.

Just because a few 12 year old dorks like to claim credit for other people's work doesn't mean you should cripple the whole game.  Just ignore those people.

Never happening.  You either share your build or don't.  Get used to it, kiddies.
All things badspot has said.

Theoretically Badspot could disable the saving function, but it can be worked around with scripts and addons (Buildbot, IIRC). It's like trying to stop people stealing your avatar. It doesn't work, your browser needs to download the image to see it, and therefore save the image. It's the same concept with Blockland builds. It's impossible to completely stop, it's just the way the internet works.

Oh wow this is GREAT... but it could use rtb prefs to turn it on and off... Other then that its GREAT!!!!!!
heres a cookie =D :cookie: :cookieMonster: :cookie: :cookie: :cookie: :cookie: :cookieMonster:  :iceCream:
oh how did that get there

Oh wow this is GREAT... but it could use rtb prefs to turn it on and off... Other then that its GREAT!!!!!!
heres a cookie =D :cookie: :cookieMonster: :cookie: :cookie: :cookie: :cookie: :cookieMonster:  :iceCream:
oh how did that get there
Why do you need to emote spam?

All things badspot has said.

Very yes. You sir deserve a cookie.  :cookie: I loled at how all the cuss words are replaced with stuff like 'ice cream' and 'panda'.

Suggested over a thousand times.

Not only will this never be made, but it's also impossible. Saving is mostly client sided. The only server sided part about saving is events and maybe ownership.

Even if you stop them from saving brick by having it autokick or just never send the data, I'm sure they'll still have the brick save.

Those too. And I lagged out of Badspot's Block Party while saving (ephi had said he was  gonna clear it so I wanted to salvage the best builds) and I still got all the brix (well all but the treasure chests.)

Not that it matters; I think you've pretty much screwed yourself when you said:

So if I don't kiss up to his ass I get banned?
I'm sure he's not that stupid.

No it can't. It's just one of those 'what if' things, where in the case that someone actually does find a way to disable saving, he would crap-on the add-on and probably protect some of the save functions.

Oh, it would've been nice is someone actualy said that in those topics.

Just stop thinking about yourself when it comes to builds. You shouldn't be making them to make yourself look better. You should be making them for the community.

So I'm not allowed to own my builds?
Genius!

The thing is, I could care less if someone wanted to download my save and play it on singleplayer (which my WIP District 507 "game" will be since it would be a hassle to try to host it), it's the morons who take credit and publish it that I hate.
« Last Edit: August 29, 2011, 10:48:55 PM by Altered »

So if I don't kiss up to his ass I get banned?
I'm sure he's not that stupid.

Oh, it would've been nice is someone actualy said that in those topics.

So I'm not allowed to own my builds?
Genius!

The thing is, I could care less if someone wanted to download my save and play it on singleplayer (which my WIP District 507 "game" will be since it would be a hassle to try to host it), it's the morons who take credit and publish it that I hate.

There are very few of those and most are easily busted. Especially if your build gets a lot of traffic before the theft.

A better suggestion would be "An addon that prevents the hosting of a build that you saved from another server - other than single-player."

However, this new suggestion is even more impossible and, in all honesty, is quite stupid.  It's essentially what Altered wants.

Nope... Not good enough.

Easy to come around of.

Who cares?  If people wanna steal, they can steal.  But they pay back.

They get raped.

So if I don't kiss up to his ass I get banned?
I'm sure he's not that stupid.
Difference between 'kissing ass' and directly insulting him.

So I'm not allowed to own my builds?
Genius!
You can own them if you play singleplayer. The moment someone joins and ghosts, they've downloaded your build, whether or not they decide to store it on their hard drive.

The thing is, I could care less if someone wanted to download my save and play it on singleplayer (which my WIP District 507 "game" will be since it would be a hassle to try to host it), it's the morons who take credit and publish it that I hate.
If it's good enough and you let people know about it, then you wont have to worry about that.