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Did you sign the petition? (Reread the first post)

Yes because it is a violation of the constitution
41 (50%)
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No because while it is a violation, this petition won't do anything
20 (24.4%)
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Author Topic: "Remove "In God we trust" from legal tender" Petition on Whitehouse.gov  (Read 27237 times)

"God" refers to the christian diety.

"god" refers to an idol of worship.

"In God we trust" could be used for multiple religions
not just Christianity

Your point is completely invalid because not everyone is religious and not all religions have one God.

The original motto is better, IMO.

saying "In God We Trust" is not denying you your freedom to practice whatever religion you want


what
The first amendment directly states that the Government may not do anything whatsoever relating to favoring one religion over another, and God is a strictly christian being, which shows favoritism, which is unconstitutional.

It doesn't violate freedom of speech or religion?

You're still free to support whatever religion you like.
Just because the 1st ammendment supports freedom of religion people assume all mottos must be non-specific.
However, as stated above, the first amendment states that the government may not do anything to show favor to one religion over another.

In God we trust" could be used for multiple religions
not just Christianity

however, God is capitalized, so you could only be talking about only 2 religions (Christianity and Judism) mayyyybe 3 (Islam as they all derive from the same person) to my knowledge

if it was "In god we trust", you could use that argument

I like to conserve things how they are. And I don't like how they're trying to take anything god related off of everything just so someone won't be offended.


I hate change :'c


That is everything that is wrong with the world.
People have different beliefs than you, and it'd be much better to accomodate them, despite the changes that may occur.

"God" refers to the christian diety.

"god" refers to an idol of worship.
God can referee to Christian, Judaism, Catholic and possibly Islam
however, God is capitalized, so you could only be talking about only 2 religions (Christianity and Judism) mayyyybe 3 (Islam as they all derive from the same person) to my knowledge

if it was "In god we trust", you could use that argument
yes
but just saying it covers major religions

The first amendment directly states that the Government may not do anything whatsoever relating to favoring one religion over another, and God is a strictly christian being, which shows favoritism, which is unconstitutional.
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
???

where does it directly state that

Seperate church from state yes pls.

Plus E Pluribus Unum sounds bad ass.

Removing it is just going to cause more problems than it already has. It's just a few words that don't even mean anything. Athiests shouldn't care and neither should Christians but it will matter to the Christians a lot more. I say just leave it as it is because so far there haven't been any problems with it.
Any violation of the constitution, the supreme law of the land, shouldn't be tolerated. Unless of course, we make a change to the constitution.

Of course with the supression of free speech these past few years, these are baby steps.
???

where does it directly state that
respecting an establishment of religion
putting a specific god on government-owned currency seems to be respecting the christian god

???

where does it directly state that
respecting an establishment of religion
putting a specific god on government-owned currency seems to be respecting the christian god
This.

remove one nation under god from the pledge then!!!!!

respecting an establishment of religion
putting a specific god on government-owned currency seems to be respecting the christian god
you don't seem to understand the wording of it...

why am i even trying to explain this to you

you don't seem to understand the wording of it...

why am i even trying to explain this to you
Respecting an establishment religion rather obviously implied placing favor on one religion over another

how is it so difficult for you to understand this?

Respecting an establishment religion rather obviously implied placing favor on one religion over another

how is it so difficult for you to understand this?
you're taking one bit out of the entire thing when there are bits around it that alter the meaning of this

mainly the word "law" preceding the word "respecting"

there is no law that establishes a religion in place due to "In God We Trust" being on our currency.

you can't just take that one bit out and try to say that "In God We Trust" is 'respecting a religion and therefore is unconstitutional' because it makes no sense

i don't know how to explain it any better than that, i'm not even going to try to explain it any better.

you're taking one bit out of the entire thing when there are bits around it that alter the meaning of this
he has a habit of that