Poll

Would you take another human's life?

Yes
34 (26.6%)
No
11 (8.6%)
Only in self-defence
83 (64.8%)

Total Members Voted: 127

Author Topic: Homicide  (Read 3841 times)


if he attacks you it isn't a homicide, so yes i would kill him only in self-defense

with a PHASER man, vaporize him to dust!


Come onnnn

We need more conversation.

I've been suicidal in the past, and that is a form of killing I guess. The only thing that stopped me from leaving was that the effect it would have on others would be tremendous. I like using the term 'leaving' because Self Delete isn't bad in my opinion.

only to protect people i love or myself, or if i'm forced to in a situation when i'm a cop

otherwise no


Not unless there's a pretty damn good reason.

As stated, only if my family or anyone I cared about would be hurt. Only then I would attempt to maim him severely, but I don't think I would want to kill anyone. Even if they murdered / raped / stole, I wouldn't be able to live with the guilt.

I've been suicidal in the past, and that is a form of killing I guess. The only thing that stopped me from leaving was that the effect it would have on others would be tremendous. I like using the term 'leaving' because Self Delete isn't bad in my opinion.
Self Delete is just a ragequit to me. It's better you get killed by another person.


Self Delete is just a ragequit to me. It's better you get killed by another person.

I put these things not in their mature logical sequence, but as they came: and this view was cleared and sharpened by an accident of the time. Under the lengthening shadow of Ibsen, an argument arose whether it was not a very nice thing to murder one's self. Grave moderns told us that we must not even say "poor fellow," of a man who had blown his brains out, since he was an enviable person, and had only blown them out because of their exceptional excellence. Mr. William Archer even suggested that in the golden age there would be penny-in-the-slot machines, by which a man could kill himself for a penny. In all this I found myself utterly hostile to many who called themselves liberal and humane. Not only is Self Delete a sin, it is the sin. It is the ultimate and absolute evil, the refusal to take an interest in existence; the refusal to take the oath of loyalty to life. The man who kills a man, kills a man. The man who kills himself, kills all men; as far as he is concerned he wipes out the world. His act is worse (symbolically considered) than any rape or dynamite outrage. For it destroys all buildings: it insults all women. The thief is satisfied with diamonds; but the Self Delete is not: that is his crime. He cannot be bribed, even by the blazing stones of the Celestial City. The thief compliments the things he steals, if not the owner of them. But the Self Delete insults everything on earth by not stealing it. He defiles every flower by refusing to live for its sake. There is not a tiny creature in the cosmos at whom his death is not a sneer. When a man hangs himself on a tree, the leaves might fall off in anger and the birds fly away in fury: for each has received a personal affront. Of course there may be pathetic emotional excuses for the act. There often are for rape, and there almost always are for dynamite. But if it comes to clear ideas and the intelligent meaning of things, then there is much more rational and philosophic truth in the burial at the cross-roads and the stake driven through the body, than in Mr. Archer's suicidal automatic machines. There is a meaning in burying the Self Delete apart. The man's crime is different from other crimes -- for it makes even crimes impossible.

About the same time I read a solemn flippancy by some free thinker: he said that a Self Delete was only the same as a martyr. The open fallacy of this helped to clear the question. Obviously a Self Delete is the opposite of a martyr. A martyr is a man who cares so much for something outside him, that he forgets his own personal life. A Self Delete is a man who cares so little for anything outside him, that he wants to see the last of everything. One wants something to begin: the other wants everything to end. In other words, the martyr is noble, exactly because (however he renounces the world or execrates all humanity) he confesses this ultimate link with life; he sets his heart outside himself: he dies that something may live. The Self Delete is ignoble because he has not this link with being: he is a mere destroyer; spiritually, he destroys the universe.

~ G.K, Chesterton's Orthodoxy

depends on who it was and what they did/are going to do

I'll gladly put an entire magazine worth of bullets in the head of the person that threathens to take my life or the life of a loved one.
And by threaten I do not mean writing a letter that says 'lol i gon khil u'

I would only kill a man in self de-fencing. But if they didn't defile my fence then no.