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so guys

if God is imaginary

does that mean he'll become real if you square him?

does that mean he'll become real if you square him?
Real but negative, it would be best to go to the fourth.

Basically, why believe in what scientists say that are THEORIES
see colloquial vs scientific usage


^^^ Yeah but who made god, and if he wasn't made by anything, how long was he sitting in a black, timeless void, before he said "You know what would be cooler? Let's make a ball of bright and hot stuff, then stick some balls around it. Then let's have several hundred billion of those and stick them all over the place. Then let's take those clusterforgets and toss them ALL OVER THE DAMN PLACE.

Oh yeah and this little planet over here I like it it's pretty and blue. Let's stick life on there."
You are forgetting God is outside of time

It's hurts my head thinking about stuff like this

I don't see the point in just throwing away everything that has to do with God and believe in basically nothing.

Basically, why believe in what scientists say that are THEORIES, theory =/= unproven. please learn definition. rather than having a faith and possibly admitting yourself into heaven?

This is called pascal's wager. Here's a rebuttal I'm stealing from yahoo answers.
Quote from: yahoo answers
Pascal's Wager is arguably one of the most trite and fallacious religious arguments that's still in use today. It's credited to mathematician (and later zealot) Blaise Pascal. It goes something like this:

"If you believe in God and turn out to be incorrect, you have lost nothing--but if you don't believe in God and turn out to be incorrect, you will go to hell. Therefore it is foolish to be an atheist."

There are lots of logical flaws to this argument, including:

1) You can apply it to ANY religion. So it doesn't directly follow that Christianity, for example, should be the way to go. Even within Christianity, you have different sects who believe everybody else outside of their sect is going to hell. It's impossible to practice every religion, and no matter which one you choose, there's always going to be some group that says you chose wrong.

2) In fact, you can apply the same reasoning to any situation where an unprovable threat is made. I could say "If you don't give me $50, a big green monster will come up from the earth and eat you. You say it's not true, but what if is? Is it really worth the risk? Giving your money and me being wrong would be better than not giving your money and me being right."

3) The statement that "If you believe in God and turn out to be incorrect, you have lost nothing" is not true. Suppose you're believing in the "wrong" god, and the "true" god might punish you for your foolishness. Consider also the deaths that have resulted from people rejecting medicine in favor of prayer.

4) The argument starts off by admitting that the existence of God is at least debatable, but then it assumes that the doctrine of "If God exists, then he punishes unbelievers" is true. There's no reason why the latter should be more probable than the former.

5) The argument also assumes that God's stupid enough to fall for false sense of sincerity just to avoid punishment. Seems weird for a supreme being.


I'm not saying that you need to preach about it,  but even if you kept it to yourself, in your heart, that you knew someone created everything.

If there was even a chance that there wasn't a God and when I died that I was told that Atheism is the true way; I believe it's about accepting the truth whatever it may be.
For example, if you didn't believe in god, and you died being suddenly aware that there was a God all this time; you should be able to accept the truth and believe in God even though you didn't before. what does this even mean? yes, if god did exist and you died and met him, you'd probably acknowledge his existence.

I hate when some Atheists say "Don't try to convert us into Christians", but with what they're showing, they're trying to turn Christians into Atheists as well. It's not all, but some, like this thread shouldn't have been made, why did you even think about it lol. if an atheist is trying to convert you, they are an moran.


EDIT: stuff i thought pascal's wager was an argument against itself. added my argument.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2012, 09:04:54 PM by ultimamax »

Basically, why believe in what scientists say that are THEORIES, rather than having a faith and possibly admitting yourself into heaven?
a scientific theory is a loving proven hypothesis. Prove hypothesis > faith

Holy stuff, This has become a stuff storm.

hell yes

Holy stuff, This has become a stuff storm.

hell yes
You know admitting to starting a stuffstorm is bannable right?



so guys

if God is imaginary

does that mean he'll become real if you square him?
sig'd

Not saying God doesn't exist, why do we see ghosts?