Understanding Firearms =\/= Shameless Revival of Yuki's thread

[TheChaosCarrier]

People who bitch about things like "the whole thing isn't a bullet" or "mag an clip r different" are huge friends. It's like complaining that someone says xbox when referring to the Xbox 360 or PC when referring to a windows computer. It's bitchy nitpicking and it's annoying.

Well maybe general laziness is annoying to those who nitpick?

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[fred da kiko]

Well maybe general laziness is annoying to those who nitpick?

It's not lazy to refer to a round as a bullet or a magazine as a clip. You see ignorance of a semi obscure subject as laziness. How fair would it be if someone came up to you and called you lazy because you didn't know where Zimbabwe was or you didn't know the natural habitat of the puffer fish, I assume you would be pretty frustrated at that person. Likewise you shouldn't be a nitpicking bitch when someone doesn't know everything there is to know about your hobby, just like i don't expect everyone to know everything there is to know about mine.

[Daedalus]

japan has gun crimes?
i thought japan had no need for gun control since there's no way to illegally obtain firearms from bordering countries, considering the only bordering country to japan is, well, the ocean.

pretty sure sharks don't carry AK-47s

no, they have virtually no gun deaths
that's why I'm asking how they do it

There is an estimate of 126,659,683 people in japan and its a about the same size of california. If you commit a crime good luck hiding because everyone in Japan is programed to work together.

robot people? that's the answer? :l

People who bitch about things like "the whole thing isn't a bullet" or "mag an clip r different" are huge friends. It's like complaining that someone says xbox when referring to the Xbox 360 or PC when referring to a windows computer. It's bitchy nitpicking and it's annoying.

no, they're people who are loving right. that's like logging onto my linux machine and being like "just gonna use my mac real quick :-)"
there's a difference between calling something an accepted lazy term, and calling it something completely loving different
windows machine = PC
clip =/= magazine

It's not lazy to refer to a round as a bullet or a magazine as a clip. You see ignorance of a semi obscure subject as laziness. How fair would it be if someone came up to you and called you lazy because you didn't know where Zimbabwe was or you didn't know the natural habitat of the puffer fish, I assume you would be pretty frustrated at that person. Likewise you shouldn't be a nitpicking bitch when someone doesn't know everything there is to know about your hobby, just like i don't expect everyone to know everything there is to know about mine.

he's not being a nitpicking bitch. this topic is to correct the stuffty errors that are thrown about constantly by the media. when was the last time that call of duty gave the wrong capital of zimbabwe and everyone started believing it?

[Harm94]

robot people? that's the answer? :l

People litteraly work themselves to death there.

[fred da kiko]

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I was explaining that people who complain about this stuff are nitpicking bitches, i wasn't talking about the topic itself. He was saying all the people who don't look up every minuscule fact they are presented in a movie are lazy and therefore deserve to be bitched at. Look at it this way, people have misconceptions about cars and airplanes and car/airplane enthusiasts rarely bitch as much as gun enthusiasts. Whenever I'm speaking with someone who really likes cars or planes they usually politely correct me, but people who like guns usually get all butthurt and upset that I called their precious round a bullet.

[Daedalus]

People litteraly work themselves to death there.

mmm
can't disagree with that

I was explaining that people who complain about this stuff are nitpicking bitches, i wasn't talking about the topic itself. He was saying all the people who don't look up every minuscule fact they are presented in a movie are lazy and therefore deserve to be bitched at. Look at it this way, people have misconceptions about cars and airplanes and car/airplane enthusiasts rarely bitch as much as gun enthusiasts. Whenever I'm speaking with someone who really likes cars or planes they usually politely correct me, but people who like guns usually get all butthurt and upset that I called their precious round a bullet.

it doesn't seem very butthurt to me :I it seems pretty straightforward
it's not really a complaint either - it's educating people and correcting very common mistakes in the media

[TheChaosCarrier]

I'm saying laziness as in people are too lazy to correct the lies slandered by the media, and instead they believe the media.
Thus they are laughed at for ignorance.

This is why the NRA despises the media probably more than anybody else on the planet.

[fred da kiko]

I'm saying laziness as in people are too lazy to correct the lies slandered by the media, and instead they believe the media.
Thus they are laughed at for ignorance.

This is why the NRA despises the media probably more than anybody else on the planet.

Do you think call of duty would be fun if the guns all sucked ass? Do you think that the professional would be better if his silenced pistol was loud as forget? It's not slander, it's ignorance and misconception.

[SpitFir3Tornado²]

AK-series and variants explained by me, to the best of my ability.

The Ak47/Ak74/AKM are different weapons, from different time periods. AK47 was the weapon of choice in the Russian military in the 50's, and the AKM was in the 60's.  The AKM is a "upgraded" version of the Ak47, but still a different weapon. Then in the late-70's, they adopted and used the AK74. It fired a different round, the 5.45x39mm which was deemed more proficient at, well doing what guns do, killing. (however, this change was likely made due to the fact that this round is cheaper to make.) At this point I should acknowledge the whole "What does adding a U to it mean? What about an S? And what's an Ak74M?" An Ak47/74 S simply has a folding stock on it. An AK74U (there is no Ak47U) is a shortened carbine version of the Ak74. The AK74M was developed to be a "modernized" version of the AK74. This weapon is likely to be known as a "Black AK" or something of the like. It is what the Russian Military uses today. However, you may also know of the AK100-series which is more confusing. The Ak101-105 still mean "Avtomat Kalashnikova" however, in the 107-108 the "AK" means "Alexandrov/Kalashnikov" representing, Youriy Alexandrov, the man who designed the weapons and Mikhail Kalashnikov whose weapons he took inspiration from. The AK107/108 were designed to be cheaper versions of the AN94, developed by Gennadiy Nikonov, (AN=Avtomat Nikonov) which serves a larger use in the Russian Military than any of the Ak100-series weapons, while still being very limited.

This is pretty much all I know about the AK series.

[Daedalus]

Do you think call of duty would be fun if the guns all sucked ass? Do you think that the professional would be better if his silenced pistol was loud as forget? It's not slander, it's ignorance and misconception.

wait wait hold on what.
by real-life standard, the guns in call of duty would be exponentially better
and it's not about games jesus christ
it's correcting the stupid misconceptions that people get from the media

[SpitFir3Tornado²]

I'm saying laziness as in people are too lazy to correct the lies slandered by the media, and instead they believe the media.
Thus they are laughed at for ignorance.

This is why the NRA despises the media probably more than anybody else on the planet.

Why do you people think that if everyone had a gun, everyone would be more safe? Compare shootings in Canada, land of gun restriction, to Canada, land of go buy a .32 at the convenience store. This year, I've heard about ~15 shootings in Canada. I'm sure there have been more, but I haven't heard about them. IN American, I've heard about ~5. THIS IS BECAUSE SHOOTINGS ARE SO COMMON IN AMERICA THAT THEY DONT EVEN MAKE THE NEWS.

[Daedalus]

Compare shootings in Canada, land of gun restriction, to Canada, land of go buy a .32 at the convenience store.

Compare Canada, to Canada,

Canada, Canada,

[Gojira]

Ignore this post, I was being an dum

[SpitFir3Tornado²]

wait wait hold on what.
by real-life standard, the guns in call of duty would be exponentially better
and it's not about games jesus christ
it's correcting the stupid misconceptions that people get from the media

I hate people who think that if a video game has any realism than it's a simulator. All my friends play Call of Duty, so one day I asked them a few basic questions,

"What year was the Ak47 manufactured?"-I don't know- 1942?
"What weapon is of standard use in the Russian military"-Ak47 -Ak47 -Ak47
"What round does the M16 use?" -i dont know -9mm

Then you try and talk about a semi-realistic/realistic video game (i.e. ARMA2) and they go "wow sounds boring" "its dumb if you get shot once and die"

Then you try and tell them that they only like COD because it's popular and it's pretty much peer pressure to play it. And they go "no its fun" "zombies is cool" "the multiplayer is fun"

You try and tell them about another game and they go "sounds dumb" and I say "It's more fun than holding down your trigger while holding the thumbstick forward." and they all burst into arguement about how COD has "strategy"

TL;DR My friends are dumb CODcigarettes.

[fred da kiko]

wait wait hold on what.
by real-life standard, the guns in call of duty would be exponentially better
and it's not about games jesus christ
it's correcting the stupid misconceptions that people get from the media

Yes, if all the guns in call of duty were realistic they would be worse than the are in the game, rather than arcady action weapons. Misconceptions aren't even made by the media, it's just logical. Think about it, guns fire bullets. To for a gun to fire something you would need to put something in the gun. Logically you would put a bullet in the gun. It's like the toast in the toaster thing, where if someone has never seen a toaster they would assume you put toast in the toaster.