[MEGATHREAD] Personal Computer - Updated builds thanks to Logical Increments

[Yenola³]

why 12 gigs of ram

I render things every once in a while, and sometimes I'll be needing to run some intensive programs in the background, so it's just useful to have

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[Cut Glass]

why 12 gigs of ram

Why does it matter if people get more than 8GB? Anytime people get over 8GB someone always says "Why did you get XGB?".

[Georges]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1rim2

I plan to use this mainly for Blockland and Minecraft.

What do you guys think?

[Treynolds416]

Buying an expensive case is a waste of money. I already have plenty of hard drive space. I have a PSU sitting in a box. I have a 560 ti that I am going to stick in it and may upgrade whenever.

I am going to college with it. The college is science/engineering/mathematics. I may be required to do complex calculations/simulations on my computer.

Also, I might cut the RAM back to 16 gigs for now anyway because it will be easy to upgrade if it turns out I need it.

The reason I suggested you should get a better case is because if you're going to spend a bunch of money on stuff that's barely going to make a difference, you might as well spend some on something noticable like a case.

In all seriousness, I doubt that the specific advantages of an i7-4770k is going to be worth it over an i7-3770k or an i5-3570k, which is over $100 cheaper. Unless you know for a fact that the applications you'll be using are extremely multithreaded (upwards of 4 cores), it won't make a lick of difference. Same for the ram, you don't really need that much unless you're doing a stuff ton (and I really do mean a lot) of multitasking. Not like, browser and game open, but like video editing, photoshop, games, modeling software, and simulations running at the same time multitasking. 16gb is still probably more than you'll ever need, but it's certainly not going to hurt anything. As for your cpu cooler, which I forgot to mention in the last post, I would spend maybe $10 more and just get a hyper 212 evo. There may not be anything wrong with the one you've picked, but you don't know because nobody has used it because they're all using the evo, lol

[Doomonkey]

The reason I suggested you should get a better case is because if you're going to spend a bunch of money on stuff that's barely going to make a difference, you might as well spend some on something noticable like a case.

In all seriousness, I doubt that the specific advantages of an i7-4770k is going to be worth it over an i7-3770k or an i5-3570k, which is over $100 cheaper. Unless you know for a fact that the applications you'll be using are extremely multithreaded (upwards of 4 cores), it won't make a lick of difference. Same for the ram, you don't really need that much unless you're doing a stuff ton (and I really do mean a lot) of multitasking. Not like, browser and game open, but like video editing, photoshop, games, modeling software, and simulations running at the same time multitasking. 16gb is still probably more than you'll ever need, but it's certainly not going to hurt anything. As for your cpu cooler, which I forgot to mention in the last post, I would spend maybe $10 more and just get a hyper 212 evo. There may not be anything wrong with the one you've picked, but you don't know because nobody has used it because they're all using the evo, lol

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1rka2

I've changed some stuff up.

I think that the 4770k is worth $20 more than the 3770k. The i5 is worse than both of the i7s in a lot of ways. The hyper 212 seems to have lower CFM and is louder.

[Treynolds416]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1rka2

I've changed some stuff up.

I think that the 4770k is worth $20 more than the 3770k. The i5 is worse than both of the i7s in a lot of ways. The hyper 212 seems to have lower CFM and is louder.

Pretty much the only advantage over the 3770k is that the haswell is slightly more efficient per clock cycle (which doesn't matter much because you're not going to pay for electricity while you're at college) and that the motherboard is compatible with the next series of intel processors that will come out, broadwell. If you're not going to upgrade your cpu every product revision (you shouldn't, btw), it's not worth much more. I can see you got a combo deal with the SSD though, so if there's no similar deals with the 3770k and you decide you really really want a 3770k, you might as well get the 4770k.

However, you shouldn't get a 3770k unless you're going to do video encoding or use programs that you know for sure are multithreaded. Everything looks better on paper for the i7 for a reason, intel wants you to buy their expensive stuff. The only difference that you should worry about is the hyperthreading in the i7. Like I said though, this will only come into play if you use multithreaded programs or encode video or whatever. The fact that it's an i7 vs i5 and it's 0.1 ghz clocked higher doesn't make a difference. The gimmick with i7's is the hyperthreading and minor efficiency boost from i5. It's not just a straight upgrade. The slightly higher clock means almost nothing too, if you got an aftermarket cpu cooler and you're going to overclock, both chips would effectively be the same. There's more than 0.1 variance between chips of the same make. Anything else like extra L2 cache or whatever is also inconsequential. As for the cooler, I didn't really look at it so it doesn't really matter.

At the end of the day, I clearly can't stop you from doing whatever you want, so you have to decide if marginal advantages are worth $100 to you. Flat out, I can tell you that the i5-3570k has the best performance for price of any other card on the market right now.

[Georges]

What do you guys think about this build?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1rim2

I plan on using it for Blockland and Minecraft.

[BlackMod]

since minecraft is mostly CPU based i would recommend getting a better cpu

[Yenola³]

What do you guys think about this build?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1rim2

I plan on using it for Blockland and Minecraft.

spend the extra money on the AMD 965, definitely worth it

[Georges]

spend the extra money on the AMD 965, definitely worth it

I tried it, and the funny thing is, it came out 1 dollar cheaper. :P

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1rlp8

[Yenola³]

I tried it, and the funny thing is, it came out 1 dollar cheaper. :P

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1rlp8

and for $30 more you can get a 2TB HDD

[Georges]

and for $30 more you can get a 2TB HDD

Yah, but I don't need 2TBs. I haven't even used up all of my 60gb HDD on my current computer. :P Also, I'm on a very tight budget.

[Yenola³]

Yah, but I don't need 2TBs. I haven't even used up all of my 60gb HDD on my current computer. :P Also, I'm on a very tight budget.

Why are you building a computer on a tight budget?

if you have a computer that works for you right now, why are you are you building another one that is barely going to run Blockland at minimum settings on a fairly low brickcount build?

You haven't even factored in Windows, which is $100, unless you plan on using Linux.

[Nal]

Why does it matter if people get more than 8GB? Anytime people get over 8GB someone always says "Why did you get XGB?".

16 is no more, glass

[Georges]

Why are you building a computer on a tight budget?

if you have a computer that works for you right now, why are you are you building another one that is barely going to run Blockland at minimum settings on a fairly low brickcount build?

You haven't even factored in Windows, which is $100, unless you plan on using Linux.

I have been told by other people that I can build a computer in this price range that will play minecraft and blockland decently. Also, almost anything is better than what I have now. I have to play at minimum settings 100% of the time, almost never getting over 100 fps, rarely getting over 70, and most of the time at like 25-35 (maybe lower (its not uncommon to drop into the 12-20 fps range))fps on minimum settings. And I have my OS figured out, don't worry about that.

Also, I'm on a tight budget because I don't have a very good job. :/