[MEGATHREAD] Personal Computer - Updated builds thanks to Logical Increments

[Blockzillahead]

the thing is that bf4 is optimized for amd, so you're better off with that with a budget of 700

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[Omicron Corp]

the thing is that bf4 is optimized for amd, so you're better off with that with a budget of 700

Intel still outperforms

[Cut Glass]

So a friend at school asked me if I can build him a $600-$700 gaming computer and I came up with this.

He also said he can start low priced then upgrade it in a few months. Anyway hows this look for games like ArmA II/III and BF4?

Any suggestions?

(Also Video Card is a Radeon HD 7850 I used for about 2 months then decided to upgrade to a GTX 670 4GB, giving it to him for $50)

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Moby1997/saved/3Ajo

[Omicron Corp]

get an h87 board instead
500gb is pretty small. I would get 1tb instead
other than that its fine
you could bring the cost down by getting a 500w PSU instead, a 7850 consumes little power

[Cut Glass]

get an h87 board instead
500gb is pretty small. I would get 1tb instead
other than that its fine
you could bring the cost down by getting a 500w PSU instead, a 7850 consumes little power

He's going to upgrade the GPU in a few months so I wanted to get a 600W to leave room for something like a GTX 760/770.

[Pecon]

Intel still outperforms

You're not taking price into account, though. The highest AMD processor on that chart is $189 (That's the 8350 Vishera on the chart)
The equivalent Intel processor on that chart was the i7-3770k, which is priced at $329.

[Cut Glass]

I7-4770K. ^

[Omicron Corp]

He's going to upgrade the GPU in a few months so I wanted to get a 600W to leave room for something like a GTX 760/770.

alright
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2KP3g

You're not taking price into account, though. The highest AMD processor on that chart is $189 (That's the 8350 Vishera on the chart)
The equivalent Intel processor on that chart was the i7-3770k, which is priced at $329.

...the i5 outperformed it on that chart...
the 4670 version at least

edit; reading the chart wrong. the 8350 near the top is the overclocked version
the one under the i5 4440 is the unoverclocked version, not impressed

[Pecon]

I'm not going to argue against Intel generally being better for high-range systems, I'm just saying that Intel isn't a good choice for budget systems because AMD wins in performance for cost in the <$200 range.

Also, that i5 costs $40 more.

[Omicron Corp]

huh
the 8350 is 190 and I found an i5 4440 for 195
and bf4 is a heavily-amd optimized title, and takes better use of extra cores, so in other games you'll generally see a bigger difference
but I still get your point, although it really applies only for sub-600 builds

[Cut Glass]

Okay so I am going to have some extra parts after I take apart my moms Hackintosh I built about a year back (she wants to get a new Mac Pro) and put the parts toward a mini ITX build for myself. I'll probably just use the computer for when I go to a friends to hang out I can just pick it up and go. or have a friend use it if I ever have them over, anyway, what do you think of the build?
The most i'll use the build for is ArmA III, if I can even play on that SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6870 2GB 256-bit GDDR5.

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Moby1997/saved/3BYI

[Nal]

Intel still outperforms
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Lmao I get 120 with a 770 and an fx 8320

[Alyx Vance]

How are you guys using PcPartPicker? It keeps telling me its not available..
It seems like my proxy is blocking it..

[buttkills64]

Below are some suggested systems for varying price ranges. Don't forget that the total may include rebates. Also, none of these include an operating system. Keep $100 aside for your OS.

Thanks to SpooK for the beautiful new list of custom builds.

$300

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154109
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171038
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130661
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113283
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148516
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

$400

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154109
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171038
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130652
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103953
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148516
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161427

$500

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154109
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171038
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130652
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148516
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161426

$600

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146075
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182262
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130652
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147096
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236380
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150660

$700

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146075
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182262
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157306
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116773
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211457
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236380
GPU:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150660

$800

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146075
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182262
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157306
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211457
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236380
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150605

$900

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146075
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116018
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157306
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233202
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236380
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150588

$1000

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146075
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116018
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157296
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233202
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820239373
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150588

$1200

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139014
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157296
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504
CPU Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226272
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211588
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150588

$1500

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139014
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256058
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130643
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501
CPU Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181032
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226272
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697
SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211588
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127685

$2000

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139007
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341045
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130643
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501
CPU Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181032
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233143
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822149397
SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227791
X2 GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127685

Other Custom Builds

These are all builds that have been put together by forum users for anyone to buy and build. If you want your build here, post it on the thread. Make sure the build has a theme and a price tag!

Blue and White NZXT Phantom StormTrooper System - Budget: $1500
By MackTheHunter



Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146067 $119.99
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116012 $179.99
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131837 $139.99
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504 $214.99
Cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181017 $104.99
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345 $41.99
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697 $69.99
SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227791 $139.99
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130787 $409.99

Total cost: $1421.91 Not including taxes/rebates.

Corsair White Obsidian Build - Budget: $2000
By TomTheGeek



Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139005 $179.99
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010 $169.99
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131821 $241.99
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501 $329.99
Cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181017 $119.99
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233144 $46.99
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136792 $199.99
SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233211 $139.99
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130798 $559.99

Total cost: $1988.91 Not including taxes/rebates.

Mini-ITX BitFenix Prodigy GTX Titan SFF Build Budget: $2000



Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811345016 $89.99
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139011 $159.99
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131840 $184.99
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504 $219.99
Cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181031 $94.99
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345 $62.99
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236343 $119.99
SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-227-791&IsVirtualParent=1 $119.99
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121724 $999.99

Total cost: $2052.99 Not including taxes/rebates.



In conclusion, you can see that it is better to build your own, however not completely necessary if you don't feel comfortable with.


What this thread can do for you

Please feel free to post any questions, that's what the thread is for. Also, like I have stated above, you can request a custom build at any point. I find pleasure in computers and enjoy helping :)


People who want to help maintain thread and help others:

     - MackTheHunter
     - Ethan
     - TomTheGeek
     - HerpaDerp
     - SPooK


If you wish to contribute and/or help people with configurations or questions, I can add you to the list.

Thank-you for reading, and I hope this helped you in some way.

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Additional Reading - How to fix a Blue Screen of Death

Complete with pictures for the clueless.

Oh stuff!

The typical end-user believes that a "STOP" screen (more commonly referred to the Blue Screen of Death, abbreviated to BSoD) is the end of their computer. Contrary to popular belief, this is not true. Most can be resolved just by restarting, while some others, such as driver issues and registry errors, need action before the BSoD will stop occurring. This post will teach you how to solve them.


Uninstall any drivers and programs you have recently installed
The majority of BSoDs are caused by improper installation/selection of drivers and programs, and can be fixed easily. Start by loading Windows in Safe Mode (that's a link!) This will ensure that only primary drivers and programs are loaded for a less-than-proper operating environment, and will allow the uninstall to go without error, as the program service or driver would not be loaded during the starting of Windows.
To uninstall a program, enter the Control Panel. Click one of the following icons corresponding to the version of Windows that you have installed.

Windows XP:

Windows Vista and 7:


From these icons, a list will appear of all the software you've installed on your computer. Gathering the list may take a minute or two, be patient. From here, you click one of the recently installed programs/drivers and click "Change/Remove", "Change", or "Remove." Follow the on-screen instructions after selecting to uninstall the program. Afterwards, restart your computer and check to see if the problem occurs. Repeat if necessary.


Run System Restore to a point where you could use your computer
This would have to be one of the easiest methods to fix a recurring BSoD ever. Pick the method corresponding to your version of Windows.

Windows XP:

Follow the on-screen instructions when the window comes up.
Windows Vista and 7:
Click on "System Protection"

This button may be greyed out if you don't have a restore point.

Afterwards, follow the on-screen instructions.


Look up the "STOP" error code
This is a general "do-me-first" for experienced users. The "STOP" error code is the sequence that appears whenever a BSoD occurs (example, 0x000000E2.) For Windows Vista and 7 users, it's as easy as clicking a button to get the error code during your next startup.

Add the BCCode onto "0x00000000", whereas the BCCode would be 541, you'd have a "STOP" code of "0x00000541"

However, if you're using XP or 2000, you'll have to write down the error code. If the screen restarts too fast, or you're too scared and just reset your computer, you're going to have to change system failure and recovery options. Here's a guide with pictures on how to do so:

Open the Control Panel, then you will open "System".

Head over to the "Advanced" tab.

Click the "Settings" button on the following

Turn off "Automatically Restart" on System Failure


For Vista and 7 users who would like to do the same:

Click on "Advanced system settings"

Then, follow the last 2 steps of the XP method.

You can look up "STOP (code)" on Google, or the Microsoft Support website. Whichever one you use is pure choice. From here, there should be a guide on how to fix the issue you're having.


My computer won't boot Windows in Safe Mode!
Provided you have the Operating System disk, you can Repair the system. Should you not, where I am, it is legal to download the disk, provided you have a license for the product. Insert the disk into your drive, watch when your computer starts up for "Press F8 to launch BBS", "F12 Boot Menu" or similar messages. When it appears, select "CD-ROM drive" or something with the name "DVD" or "CD" in it. Should you be using XP, do not use the recovery console if you have no idea what you're doing. The recovery console is for more experienced Windows users who know what the issue is, and it's generally not recommended to play around in it. Follow the on-screen instructions after you've initiated the repair process. Generally the only thing you'll lose is modified system files, the rest of them should be fine after the repair process. If it doesn't detect any disks, ensure the hard drive is powered on, plugged into the SATA/IDE port, and is enabled in the BIOS (consult your manual that came with the computer for more information.) Should it not be detected by your BIOS, your hard drive may be dysfunctional. Test it in another system to verify.

Credits to KoopaScooper for his great section on the BSOD.

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[Nal]

did you really have to quote all of that