Poll

Support right to bear arms

yes
129 (62.6%)
no
24 (11.7%)
i don't care
19 (9.2%)
i live in the uk
9 (4.4%)
ég dont vita hvaða byssa
25 (12.1%)

Total Members Voted: 206

Author Topic: Do you support the second amendment?  (Read 17461 times)

yeah, it'll demonstrate the distinct differences between first, second, and third world countries

sweden, finland, and ireland are third world countries, congratulations

dont know what you were going on about there, i was just calling you out for saying guns are the most regulated consumer good
they're far from it
food, medications, etc are vastly more regulated. infact they have their own agency dedicated to regulating them, the FDA

as far as the content of your most recent post:
A) no one ever suggested confiscating all guns. you just limit sales, and the number of guns slowly decreases
B) no stuff. the idea is that it's much easier to kill someone with a gun, and guns have NO PURPOSE other than killing. sure, you can kill someone with a screwdriver, but there's more reasons to own a screwdriver than to kill people.

and it'd be dumb to ban smoking because that effects the smoker and is a personal choice. smoking IS banned on public property.
There's an agency dedicated to the regulation of firearms as well, the ATF.

Firearms were invented to kill, yes. In doing so, they can provide food for people, they don't necessarily kill other people. People can also buy guns because they want them, and target shooting is a sport.

Hammers were invented to drive nails, and you wouldn't have much luck using them as a spatula. Guns fire projectiles, so yes, that is what they do.

Smoking affects people other than the smoker because they have to breathe the stuffty air created by burning the tobacco. People who live with smokers are affected almost as much as the smoker. It's not their choice to be affected, but they are. Smoking isn't banned on all public property, go to any city and you'll see people smoking on street corners. You'll inhale that, too. Children of smokers are more likely to have asthma and other respiratory diseases, I wonder why.

fun fact: england has a higher violent crime rate than the USA and weapons of any kind are illegal to own in England.
(blatant lie)
stop trolling, stocking, most of these people can't tell

kearn, come back once you have basic human intelligence.

rockslide..
i'd hardly call the ATF as large and important as the FDA
i have no idea what you're trying to prove with the next two lines
and smoking is pretty unrelated to all this so i'm done with that
« Last Edit: January 29, 2013, 10:55:00 PM by Fredulus »

sweden, finland, and ireland are third world countries, congratulations
........what

I'd like to keep my arms very much so!

(blatant lie)
stop trolling, stocking, most of these people can't tell
Quote from: UK violent crime stuffs
In 2010/11, 31 people per 1000 interviewed reported being a victim of violent crime in the 12 preceding months.
Quote from: US violent crime stuffs
In 2009 there were 16.9 victimizations per 1000 persons aged 12 and over.
so the UK has double the crimerate and coincidentally has no firearms for self defense

........what
kearn, come back once you have basic human intelligence.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Cold_War_alliances_mid-1975.svg

I'd like to keep my arms very much so!
No forget you, I want to be a machamp, gimme.

sweden, finland, and ireland are third world countries, congratulations
sweden is the tenth most developed country in the world
finland is the twenty-second most developed country in the world
ireland is the seventh most developed country in the world
i think you might be using a source that's several centuries old

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Cold_War_alliances_mid-1975.svg
way to use really outdated information, the terms first/second/third world are no longer really formal. if i was being formal i would have said developed/developing

so the UK has double the crimerate and coincidentally has no firearms for self defense
yeah nice source, some interviews! try again
« Last Edit: January 29, 2013, 11:00:10 PM by Fredulus »

sweden is the tenth most developed country in the world
finland is the twenty-second most developed country in the world
ireland is the seventh most developed country in the world

i think you might be using a source that's several centuries old

using your own definition since you told me to use wikipedia

also third world countries didnt exist centuries ago come again!!!

also the funny thing is you just said infrastructure doesnt matter

No forget you, I want to be a machamp, gimme.
Oh god yes.

here, take them

using your own definition since you told me to use wikipedia

also third world countries didnt exist centuries ago come again!!!
read my edit asswipe

also the funny thing is you just said infrastructure doesnt matter
once again no idea what you're talking about

yeah nice source, some interviews! try again

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_Survey_for_England_and_Wales

yeah these dudes are just some crazy fringe group

once again no idea what you're talking about

you just said infrastructure doesn't make a first-world country and then went on about development in the 3 countries i listed

Development is irrelevant to *-world country status.

EDIT: Not that this debate matters. Kearn is just ignoring the fact that because rebels may or may not be able to defeat the Syrian military doesn't mean that rebels can beat the U.S. military.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_Survey_for_England_and_Wales
yeah these dudes are just some crazy fringe group
says nothing about US vs UK crime rates

you just said infrastructure doesn't make a first-world country and then went on about development in the 3 countries i listed
wow you're really dumb
development doesn't mean just infrastructure
development factors in lots of things

Development is irrelevant to *-world country status.
Yeah, if you're using the cold war definition. I wasn't, and it was pretty damn obvious.

First world countries like Japan, UK, Sweden, Norway, and France still let you own guns.

Countries like Finland and Australia dont allow you to own any weapons. In Australia you can't even own an airsoft gun. Mexico has abolished the right to bear arms and crime is ramp, even the the cartels disarm the public.