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Support right to bear arms

yes
129 (62.6%)
no
24 (11.7%)
i don't care
19 (9.2%)
i live in the uk
9 (4.4%)
ég dont vita hvaða byssa
25 (12.1%)

Total Members Voted: 206

Author Topic: Do you support the second amendment?  (Read 17171 times)

if a teacher gets out of hand and looses his temper he could then commit a crime he/she never would have otherwise. Even if that doesn't happen, there are a lot of thieves in schools, if a kid gets the chance, the teacher's gun could be stolen.

teachers already have the rights to own guns. its just as easy to bring them to school one day if they want to shoot a kid.
its not like having it there already makes them more likely to become criminals. thats juts silly.

kids can already steal guns from anywhere and bring them to school. a kid isnt more likely to do this if its already at school or not. thats just silly.


you are using outrageous, unreal situations. you think the presence of a firearm, will CREATE criminals lol/ crime exists with or without a weapon. the type of person who wants to commit a crime inst motivated by having a weapon or not.

If the government restricts or takes away our gun rights, criminals are still going to smuggle them, and that will cause more harm.

If everyone had a gun, the shooter will die on his first shot.

Yes, that was placed there in case the government became too powerful and took away our rights. That way we could defend ourselves,
     You know who else had no gun rights? Germany, 1940. And surprise surprise, they couldn't defend themselves
Uhm...
Are you trying to suggest that the formation of national socialist Germany is due to Germany not having gun rights, and that gun rights actually stand in the way of countries like America becoming national socialist?

Just so you know, the formation of national socialist Germany was not some hostile takeover by the national socialists. They didn't just appear from no-where one day and conquer Germany.
They were a political party which were voted in to parliament and then given power.
That's simplified, but that is how it happened.

And if the people of the USA were to vote national socialists into power in the Senate and as President and other offices, then national socialist's could take over the USA via your own system of democracy and your own constitution. And then they could reform it however they wanted.
And you owning guns wouldn't change a thing.

If the government restricts or takes away our gun rights, criminals are still going to smuggle them, and that will cause more harm.

If everyone had a gun, the shooter will die on his first shot.
You are dealing in exacts (e.g. first shot) which makes your argument mush.  I do agree that less gun control is the answer (I would actually prefer any US citizen being allowed to own and bring a firearm anywhere) but your reason for it being that way is terribad. 

In the Old West, when everyone had a gun, shootouts in the streets happened often and the sheriff was often too afraid to enforce any laws.

Not that it has anything to do with modern day... but... just sayin'.  People like to use the guns they have.

People like to use the guns they have.
Yeah, but not always on other people.

What do you mean they couldn't defend themselves ?
Jews and other people being persecuted had no form of weaponry to defend themselves, whereas the Germans had all sorts of militaristic weapons. At least, that's what I have learned from others, I really haven't looked up Germany gun laws from WWII, so I could be wrong

In the Old West, when everyone had a gun, shootouts in the streets happened often and the sheriff was often too afraid to enforce any laws.

Not that it has anything to do with modern day... but... just sayin'.  People like to use the guns they have.
*hollywood*

Even if my mind changes on everything pro-gun I have, I'll still stand by the very reason we were allowed to own them when the United States was founded: the founding fathers wanted us to resist any sort of tyrannical ruler, like the kings of the age. Actually, a lot of the original Constitution and Bill of Rights can be traced back to how England operated under the King/Queen. Every nation that declared total war on all of their neighbors has made sure their population didn't have enough weapons to resist, and with good reason. You don't try to seize absolute control when your people have a fair chance of kicking your ass in the process.

Okay so I have a funny memory with the second amendment.

We were in eighth grade history or social studies or whatever and the teacher finished his spiel on the constitution.
Someone asked "what does 'right to bear arms mean?'" and this dumb blonde legitimately said "It means you can wear short sleeves, duh."

The only reason the government is thinking about taking this away is because they believe it will stop criminals from having guns. They don't think that criminals would find a way around this, and without more people able to walk around with concealed weapons, more gun-related crimes very well could be lethal.

Jews and other people being persecuted had no form of weaponry to defend themselves, whereas the Germans had all sorts of militaristic weapons. At least, that's what I have learned from others, I really haven't looked up Germany gun laws from WWII, so I could be wrong
They were persecuted by the entire government so even if they had a weapon - it wouldn't have helped them much. They wouldn't have been allowed to purchase / own any guns in the first place.
The citizens didn't need any weapons either because the crime rate during Riddler's time was surprisingly low.

They were persecuted by the entire government so even if they had a weapon - it wouldn't have helped them much. They wouldn't have been allowed to purchase / own any guns in the first place.
The citizens didn't need any weapons either because the crime rate during Riddler's time was surprisingly low.


the jews lost rights to guns before the rest of the germans did. then as the war went on, the other's rights went away more and more.

governments dont want gun control because it has anything to do with crime rates. they want it so they can be tyrannical without resistance.

i already have 2 perfectly good arms i dont need to replace them with a bears