Do you support the second amendment?

[Fredulus]

"Intolerant of the beliefs and opinions of others; stubbornly unreceptive to new ideas."

Look, there's no argument here. You ARE being close-minded.

no, i'm stubbornly unreceptive of really stupid arguments that make no sense and were often just plain incorrect

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[rockslide26]

yeah i'd say that describes my strategy pretty well
can't say i'd think its a good use of my time to format, structure, and deliberate over arguments on an internet forum full of non-voters and dumbasses

You could convince yourself the sky was purple and nobody could cmake you change, not even if you saw it with your own eyes.

You basically just admitted to putting zero effort into supporting your statements.

[IkeTheGeneric]

no, i'm stubbornly unreceptive of stupidity

You've just dismissed any points brought up as "stupidity". This only proves what I said even further.

[Fredulus]

You could convince yourself the sky was purple and nobody could cmake you change, not even if you saw it with your own eyes.
You basically just admitted to putting zero effort into supporting your statements.

no, if i saw it with my own eyes i would be perfectly convinced, as i listen to real evidence and only real evidence
and yes, i didn't put much effort into supporting my statements as this is an internet forum full of nonvoters, why the hell would i....

[IkeTheGeneric]

as i listen to real evidence and only real evidence

OK now I can't take you seriously anymore

[rockslide26]

no, if i saw it with my own eyes i would be perfectly convinced, as i listen to real evidence and only real evidence
and yes, i didn't put much effort into supporting my statements as this is an internet forum full of nonvoters, why the hell would i....

So statistics aren't evidence? I find it hard to believe you'd accept anything except what you think

[Fredulus]

So statistics aren't evidence? I find it hard to believe you'd accept anything except what you think

one guy posted statistics, then when i asked for the source, it didn't back up what he said and he didn't post again
any other statistics posted had no source

[rockslide26]

one guy posted statistics, then when i asked for the source, it didn't back up what he said and he didn't post again
any other statistics posted had no source

I'm sure you're capable of fact-checking, it's only a minor inconvenience. Hell, you should take that time to get some evidence of your own.

[Goth77]

yeah i'd say that describes my strategy pretty well
can't say i'd think its a good use of my time to format, structure, and deliberate over arguments on an internet forum full of non-voters and dumbasses

Im not really sure what you are whining about, but how exactly do you know this forum is full of dumbasses and non-voters? I am registered to vote and I graduated high school. Please stop being a jackass

[Nitro_Weavile]

most mass shootings happen in "gun free zones" such as schools or movie theaters, the shooters want a high body count so they go to these places, and signs that say this is a gun free zone are infringing my 2nd amendment rights. its like the bible, some people only belive some parts of it, but not all of it, same with the constitution, some people say, i want to talk about whatever i want, but i dont want people to have guns... just saying

[snot2]

might be relevant
http://www.fat-pie.com/latestmodel.htm

[Doomonkey]

Statistics from related government entities:
Violent Crimes Per 100,000 people in the US as of 2006 : 474 http://www.census.gov/statab/ranks/rank21.html
"Number of violence against the person offences per 100,000 population" in 2006 : >1950 (can be found on page 50 of the pdf) http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/science-research-statistics/research-statistics/crime-research/hosb1011/hosb1011?view=Binary

[Gojira]

Fredulus
Back up your arguments with statistics and facts.
You'll never win a debate if you don't have sources.

[Kearn]

says nothing about US vs UK crime rates

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_crime

In 2010/11, 31 people per 1000 interviewed reported being a victim of violent crime in the 12 preceding months.

In 2009 there were 16.9 victimizations per 1000 persons aged 12 and over.

[The Tavros Nitram]

i personally support handguns but believe high power or automatic weapons should be restricted.