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[Night Fox]

Offensive, yes. Oppressive, no.
The word "monday" is oppressive because it was used as a replacement for names by people who deemed them unworthy of names
"Bitch" has no such history. A link you posted directly addresses the original meaning; it's not an oppressive meaning.  Additionally, here's a few snippets from the very same links you posted:
Doesn't sound oppressive at all, quite the opposite

offensive, yes. oppressive, yes
reclaiming a slur is something that happens a lot. like gay people or bi people, etc. calling themselves "queer." it's still wrong for a straight person to call a gay person that, even if they use positively it for themselves

If you're going to argue that the use of the word "bitch" is wrong regardless of the context, then I'm just going to reply with eight pages of search results of you using the word yourself (I don't know how to link it directly, sorry)

wait, you mean I've made mistakes before?!?! no way!!
I know I've done that. and it was wrong. what's your point?

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[Rykuta]

Offensive language is intended to be offensive; if you guys are trying to argue that they shouldn't be used because they offend people, then I seriously hope you don't live in any country where freedom of speech exists. The very intention of calling people things like cunt, bitch, cigarette, handicap, or even monday is to offend them; if there's some magical reason why a specific insult is totally out of line and shouldn't be used on someone, then chances are the word has done its job well.

Words are just how you use them, not what they are; if you try to censor certain language people will not stop trying to be offensive with them, if you censor cunt people will just make up a new word to use offensively, its utterly pointless to argue about it, just deal with it and move on like everyone else, you aren't special just because you have a vagina.

If you try to use words that are generally offensive  by their actual definition: (For example calling a game handicapped because it loads slowly, or referring to female dogs as bitches properly.) and someone takes offense to it, then they need to sit down and realize that they care too much about things. If you can't handle impolite conversation then you should consider learning how to, instead of complaining at politicians or people who would generally not have control over that sort of thing anyways, and pretend like they can change things for your mindless agenda.

A person uses the tools at his disposal to do what he wants. The fundamental problem with the argument that the language is offensive to some demographic and that the language should not be used; is that it implies that the individuals tools are the problem, rather than the individual themselves. Its the same situation with problems like gun control/etc; people for some reason like to jump onto the tools people use as opposed to the actual people. Its not a case-by-case, its an attempt to generalize situations that really shouldn't be generalized in the first place.

Guys, seriously.  Just drop this BS and move on.

Seriously, arguing over something as trivial as language and/or semantics and their uses is pretty stupid. We all have our opinions over how to use words, none of them are right or wrong because words only have the meaning you personally take away from them.

[Night Fox]

the problem isn't that it's offensive. the problem is that it's offensive, based on gender. are you going to tell me there's nothing wrong with the n word?? no. but you don't think there's anything wrong with this word because it's common to be loveist

[Char]

the problem isn't that it's offensive. the problem is that it's offensive, based on gender. are you going to tell me there's nothing wrong with the n word?? no. but you don't think there's anything wrong with this word because it's common to be loveist

...but it's really not loveist, you're pretty much just taking it to always mean something loveist because ???
then again, you say context doesn't matter, which is completely wrong, because context is everything in language

i'm cigaretteged out from this argument
i'm gonna smoke a cigarette

[Night Fox]

that's a different word
cigarettes as in cigarettes, has absolutely nothing to do with the derogatory term for gay people

[Headcrab Zombie]

are you going to tell me there's nothing wrong with the n word??

I live near Minneapolis which has a huge african-american population. One of my campuses is actually a large majority black students. I here the word a lot. I hear Master's students greeting each other with it.
Yet I rarely hear anyone make a fuss about it, and when I do, it's almost always a white person.
Let the person who is actually in the group decide whether it's offensive, rather than being a tumblr-esque social justice warrior

that's a different word
cigarettes as in cigarettes, has absolutely nothing to do with the derogatory term for gay people

THIS IS WHAT CONTEXT IS
THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE SPENT THE LAST SEVERAL PAGES TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO YOU

The term "bitch" as a synonym for "complain" is just as much a completely different word from the derogatory word for a woman, as "cigarette" meaning cigarette is a completely different word from the derogatory term for homoloveuals

[Char]

that's a different word
cigarettes as in cigarettes, has absolutely nothing to do with the derogatory term for gay people

...oh my
considering "bitch" is used to mean "whine" or "starfish", having absolutely nothing to do with "female dog" or some loveist definition of the word, I have no idea why you'd say this

[Night Fox]

...oh my
considering "bitch" is used to mean "whine" or "starfish", having absolutely nothing to do with "female dog" or some loveist definition of the word, I have no idea why you'd say this

no
it was taken from female dogs. to describe human women. then people just turned it into a verb. it's still the same word

cigarette as in cigarette, isn't even offensive. I'm not sure how you can compare them

[Headcrab Zombie]

cigarette as in cigarette, isn't even offensive. I'm not sure how you can compare them

bitch as in complain, isn't even offensive. I'm not sure how you can compare them

Seriously, the situation with these two words is the exact same thing
cigarette is offensive when used to attack a homoloveual. It isn't when used to mean 'cigarette'
This is called context.
Bitch is offensive when used to attack a women. It isn't when used to mean 'to complain'
This is called context. The two aren't the "same word" any more than those two definitions of cigarette are the same word

[Kingdaro]

bitch as in whine/complain, isn't even offensive. I'm not sure how you can compare them

EDIT: stuff, too late, lol.

[Frontrox]

[ßlöükfáce]

Or we can like, use words however the forget we want and not care if other people think differently of it

[Night Fox]

yesss
except the elbows

[Frontrox]

yesss
except the elbows

He squeaks!!!

[Brickitect]

Or we can like, use words however the forget we want and not care if other people think differently of it