Why we should have the old Blockland back.

[Tezuni 2.0]

Heed is right with all his points made in this topic.  Maps were convenient.  And no, removing them didn't make people build better.

To the people saying 'just build it yourself', not everyone has hours upon hours to spend doing that, nor do 99% of people want to.

And lastly, brick MAPS (thousands of bricks rendered in 3d) are more graphically taxing than the old interiors.

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[Evan5626]

And no, removing them didn't make people build better.

Just addressing this part. They don't MAKE people build better, but they promote the idea of building things how you want.

[quadilious]

2 problems with heeds argument in that last post he made is that a megatopic type thing would be fine if the topic creator wasn't just a raging kid with no substance in the op. its literally going to make people not agree with the op because it has no substance, and thats just a truth evident even in this thread.


"It's because there's more to it than building. Many videos about blockland don't feature building, they feature doing things in the builds. Some people might just want to play the game without building, and a lot of people do. There's nothing wrong with just joining other servers and playing TDMs and zombie minigames."

okay, so let the lazy or the people who don't want to build do that? it looks like they're coping with the situation just fine, not sure why others are having such a fit over it.

[heedicalking]

2 problems with heeds argument in that last post he made is that a megatopic type thing would be fine if the topic creator wasn't just a raging kid with no substance in the op. its literally going to make people not agree with the op because it has no substance, and thats just a truth evident even in this thread.


"It's because there's more to it than building. Many videos about blockland don't feature building, they feature doing things in the builds. Some people might just want to play the game without building, and a lot of people do. There's nothing wrong with just joining other servers and playing TDMs and zombie minigames."

okay, so let the lazy or the people who don't want to build do that? it looks like they're coping with the situation just fine, not sure why others are having such a fit over it.

How is the megatopic thing a problem with the arguement? You're using a hypothetical situation to make it sound like a flawed idea. I was using BADSPOT'S topic as an example, it was once the megatopic before it got locked. I don't see how your assumption that the megatopic would be made by a raging kid is a flaw in my argument.

2. How is that a flaw? I was responding directly to this quote:
"If you aren't a fan of building things then idk how you'd even consider investing in a game with that slogan :P"
I answered by giving examples of why people would invest in a building game to do things other than build. It's like how people buy ARMA2 to play DayZ, something that isn't a military simulation. How is that a flaw in the argument?

[quadilious]

they were replies to statements you made in the previous post. sure, i wasn't totally clear, but surely you have the ability to understand the basic messages im conveying to you.

you misunderstood the megatopic as well, i meant that, when talking about the creator, i was referring to this thread and why it shouldn't be the actual megathread, and the point beyond that was compounded by posts people have made in this topic regarding the ops lack of substance. i was not referring to some magical future scenario wherein i knew the op of such a thread would be a raging idiot...

yes the post wasn't black and white but its really not that hard to interpret lol

[Zacks]

Why on Earth did you buy a game about building if you don't like building?...  How did you even find this game? lol

I don't want to have to build every single time I jump in to single player or an free build server.

OFFTOPIC: Why not have it where there is an game mode called Custom - Explore which would automatically disables S & S. It could even allow Badspot and Kompressor add an more optimism version of T & I's.

[heedicalking]

they were replies to statements you made in the previous post. sure, i wasn't totally clear, but surely you have the ability to understand the basic messages im conveying to you.

you misunderstood the megatopic as well, i meant that, when talking about the creator, i was referring to this thread and why it shouldn't be the actual megathread, and the point beyond that was compounded by posts people have made in this topic regarding the ops lack of substance. i was not referring to some magical future scenario wherein i knew the op of such a thread would be a raging idiot...

yes the post wasn't black and white but its really not that hard to interpret lol

stop throwing this interpretation stuff around. "oh you SHOULD understand it i can't believe you don't see through what i'm TRYING to tell you"
just come out and say it, be black and white so i can directly respond to you without you saying this "you can understand the message i MEANT to say, right?" crap every time you post. You should be as clear as you can.

You stated that both the megatopic statement and the response to jay's post were problems with my argument. Explain to me DIRECTLY how both of those things you listed are PROBLEMS with my argument. I never said this topic should be used as a megatopic, I said this:

People will continue to post these threads, there's no megatopic left to post in.

BECAUSE the megatopic got locked, these threads are created. There wouldn't be that many of these threads if the megatopic wasn't locked. I'm NOT saying these topics should act as megatopics, i'm NOT saying someone should make a megatopic. There was an official place to post things regarding the update, and that was in the update's official topic. Now that that is locked, there's going to be even more scattered topics like this all over the place.

[Mr.Noßody]

This is a game of creation.
If you don't create, you can't play.  Simply because it nobody created, there would be no game.
The nature of this game is to build stuff, the goddamn tagline on the game itself emphasizes that.

Wrong. Some things were far too large to function even nominally well as builds, or had too many unusual angles, or one way or the other just wouldn't work.

That's a stuffty cop out. "Oh, it's too hard to build nice things!"

That's because it worked and most servers were more focused on high-FPS battles than slow-ass fancy builds.

Get a computer that doesn't run DOS.

except it slows down dev time for good servers by months and months.

Id rather play a well polished game than a crappy cutout as I stated before...

I cannot build a huge beach pit with bricks, even modter doesn't have the angles I need.

Yes you can. Why not try it sometime?

people aren't forced to build unique things. there isn't some blockland revolution of amazing building potential after the update.

I'm saying there should be. Not "there was". Even with the vice of being lazy taken away, people still find ways to do nothing. That is TRUE laziness.

if you look around, the lazy are still lazy.

I already covered that.. Thanks for repeating it...

-everything-

I'm sorry, are you agreeing with me or something? Cause your just repeating what I said aside from the fact you think laziness is fine..


I just really wish more people made things to play other than search for servers to play on. There would be more diversity in the server base, more interesting things to be a part of, and lastly more game to play.
Right now we have default-build RP's in every genre imaginable.

[heedicalking]

I'm saying there should be. Not "there was". Even with the vice of being lazy taken away, people still find ways to do nothing. That is TRUE laziness.

This is honestly pathetic. What's the big deal about being lazy in a video game. I get home and play games to relax and be lazy. This isn't like people are slacking off at their job, or are producing mediocre works that you're paying for. It's people playing a video game. This shouldn't be some kind of revolution of the lazy to make them build or force them to play the way you want. If you want to make something original, go do it.

I already covered that.. Thanks for repeating it...

I was responding directly to this, where you said that people are forced to build unique things:

Now without them, people are forced to actually build unique and interesting things to do what that want, and thats a good thing.

I was saying how the lazy people are still lazy, and they AREN'T forced to build new things.

I'm sorry, are you agreeing with me or something? Cause your just repeating what I said aside from the fact you think laziness is fine..

What the hell is this stuff?

people are forced to actually build unique and interesting things

people aren't forced to build unique things.

How is that agreeing with you, that's going DIRECTLY against what you said.


Every month or so, these topics and conversations about the "decay of blockland" pop-up about unoriginality and "lazy gamers" and nothing changes. You all preach about the "bad situation" the game is in, but nobody steps up to change it.
http://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=217816.45
This was about 7 months ago, and what do you know, you guys still haven't pulled it together.
According to Bushido, the topic before that one failed to ignite because "the last time this died off was because of extraneous and extremely contrived circumstances." It turns out the topic I linked failed to ignite as well. Nothing's going to change unless the people doing all the barking step up and start biting. Nobodies going to change and stop being lazy, nobodies going to answer your call. It held true back then and it still holds true now.

As I said seven months ago

this has been done again and again, and the spark fails to light. if you want this done, maybe people should start actually lighting the fire instead of just talking about it. you don't personally have to go out there making a bunch of servers, but it would be nice if some people actually did.

[General]

He's making a point that he prefers Blockland with interiors, as do I, so I don't see why people a making such a fuss over some kid's reasonable opinion on the internet.

[MunkeyCheez]

He's making a point that he prefers Blockland with interiors, as do I, so I don't see why people a making such a fuss over some kid's reasonable opinion on the internet.

this.

[Nobot]

In my opinion I did enjoy maps before. I wish they were still here.
You don't need to hate on someone for having that feeling lol.

Obviously maps most likely aren't coming back, but we can still feel this way.
In a way we are sort of depressed. We are lazy (sorry but it's in our dna) we can't simply just be un-lazy
it's like a personality, you don't simply change right away, some people might, but it takes a long time for different people.

I like maps, again, as i've said before, because it provided a large area of non-laggy land that can easily be customizable to the host's advantage. Based on what they host of course.
and before somebody says "bricks don't lag", that isn't true entirely, it is completely based on the brick amount

[General]

Just addressing this part. They don't MAKE people build better, but they promote the idea of building things how you want.

I'm not directly targeting the person I quoted from, but the general argument of removing interiors promoting people to build things more creatively or make people build more or w/e is silly. We are not education officials here trying to find the best way for people to build more or get more skilled at building. This is a game, it was made to be enjoyed, and having interiors made it all the more enjoyable.

[General]

You can use DTS shapes to make maps actually. Previously you weren't able to build on StaticShapes but now you are. I think Badspot did it on purpose, expecting us to use StaticShapes as a way of making interiors, however i'm surprised nobody has used them yet.

[Titanium Man]

I think Badspot did it on purpose, expecting us to use StaticShapes as a way of making interiors, however i'm surprised nobody has used them yet.

Marble Man made the bedroom out of static shapes, it looked great