Author Topic: Twenty-Two Reasons Not to Go Vegetarian  (Read 8105 times)

I like meat because it tastes good.

In order of my favorite

Chicken
Beef
Pork

I hate pork

Beef
Pork
Chicken


Beef
Pork
Chicken
pork chicken beef

they are all on the same level to me

I live by a Chipolte, I go there once or twice a week. The food is amazing, it's always fresh and cooked well, and the meat is great (mainly the shredded beef carnitas). I always ask for extra corn too, it's so sweet. The best part is they put cilantro in almost everything. Chipolte is really fatty though, but there you get a meal with balanced nutrients. It is better to at least get some fat.
Yeah, they're pretty good overall. It's still fast foot, but it's incredibly better than friggin' McDonalds or something. At least there you can get something healthy, as well. And a little fat is actually good for a human being. The problem these days is that most fast foot places make their stuff ENTIRELY out of fatty ingredients, with tons of grease.

Beef
Pork
Chicken

My favorite meats are turkey, beef, and pork.

Yeah, they're pretty good overall. It's still fast foot, but it's incredibly better than friggin' McDonalds or something. At least there you can get something healthy, as well. And a little fat is actually good for a human being. The problem these days is that most fast foot places make their stuff ENTIRELY out of fatty ingredients, with tons of grease.

A lot of people exaggerate over how bad fast-foods are, and they really aren't. Many don't contain high rates of grease.

The part about living longer is usually because people who go vegetarian tend to make healthy decisions. Like I'd imagine the typical vegan as someone who exercises and plans out diet choices, stuff like that. So the extended life doesn't directly relate to only not eating meat.
A lot have studies do show that saturated fat and cardiovascular diseases are linked in some way. So no, meat doesn't give you a heart attack, it's just usually high in saturated fat (most types)
And being a vegetarian is expensive, its not like I live off letuce. I have to buy other food staples too and in the end its pretty much the same price.
Vegetarians don't not get cancer, again its just those saturated fats and stuff like that that could lead to detrimental health issues.
The weight argument depends on lifestyle, not vegetarianism. Eating no meat does not make you skinny. There are some people who eat tons of meat and are tiny.
The one about only 1 cow being killed per acre, and 300 killed per acre of growing food. Its important to note that the food must be grown THEN go to the cow, the amount of food that it takes to feed 1 cow could also be used to feed a family itself. It's more efficient if grown food goes straight to the humans.
It does in fact take a lot of land to raise cows humanely and peacefully.
The article states that animals would produce the same air pollution as they would if they were freely roaming the earth. However, there are more cows than we would have naturally for the purpose of supplying meat to humans. He basically said global warming was a theory, and that methane doesn't contribute to air pollution.
The argument about eating too much meat causing osteoperosis is just stupid. This magazine is highly inaccurated(Vegetarian Times) and needs to get real scientific evidence instead of rumours.
When it says it'll help stop famine - Being a vegetarian cannot directly do that. The US prevents people from overproducing crops in order to keep a stable price on food. They don't want people affecting the price of wheat or other crops.
"95% of pesticide residue is found in meat, fish, and dairy products". Basically the concept of biomagnification, all the pesticide residue is becoming more cocentrated as it gets to the cow or other animal.
Although a lot of food bourne illness comes from meat, a ton come from vegetables too, and other things.
The guy writing the article is trying to say fiber is bad, never really heard that before. It's actually really important to get a lot of fiber in your diet. He based this off of some book.
"Restoring the fish population" - This actually is a good point. Some fish have been on the brink of extinction due to overfishing. We just need to be careful.
If livestock wastes gets into water and goes in the ocean, bacterial colonies will form and take oxygen out of the water. A lot of fish can die from this.
We are now at a point in our civilization where we can do without meat. Some people can't, but I know many of you have access to alternatives. I actually think going vegetarian is not difficult at all after a while, I don't even consider it something unique about me, it's just sort of who I am.

Before anyone gives me a lot of crap for this, I really am being respectful to those who eat meat. I could say that you are "ruthless animal killers with no soul" but that's not true nor does it do more than make one seem like an idiot. I don't mean to offend anyone with the things I've stated and I'd be happy to discuss any questions you have.






One of the students in one of my classes is a vegan; the kind thats really ignorant and loud about it.
A week ago she was talking about how she also eats gluten free "because gluten comes from genetically modified stuff and causes diseases"

Can vegetarian girls eat my meat?

pizza is a vegetable.

Never really got the whole Veganism thing.

Preying on other animals is what nature intended. Every time you eat meat, you obtain protein from the animal. This also works with plants, but plants don't stimulate muscle growth as well as meat does.

I also haven't seen PETA stop Tigers from eating other animals. How would it be logical to stop one species from eating animals but not the others? Even if every animal on Earth suddenly became a Herbivore, there would be the issue of an Over-populated planet.

There's no logic with Veganism.

pizza is a vegetable.
Well technically speaking that tamato used to make the sauce is a fruit.

Well technically speaking that tamato used to make the sauce is a fruit.
There's a lot of things that a lot of people refer to as vegetables but are actually fruit, including: avocado, cucumber, peppers, squash.
I don't know why tomatoes get all the "fruit of vegetable" attention

*shrug* I don't know.

Potatoes are my favorite Tuber.

1. Technically vegetarians do have demonstrably lower risks for fat/cholesterol related illnesses such as colon cancer or ischemic heart disease. Whether this cumulatively results in a higher life span has yet to be answered, but logic points to it.

2. See #1. Large-scale meta brown townyses of epidemiological data sorted by dietary choices show increases in cardiovascular diseases for people who consume meat regularly. I can cite sources for anyone who really wants to check it out.

3. I don't really have any position on this, but this article needs to cite statistical data pointing to Vitamin B12 deficiencies in a sizable portion of the vegetarian populace. Also

4. I agree with this point.

5. I guess I agree with this point, but I don't see the appeal to adding 'color' to your plate. What's the point of it?

6. Once again, vegetarianism is correlated to a lower risk of ischemic heart disease. As for stroke and diabetes, I haven't read the epidemiological literature about that.

7. Once again, in complete agreement

8. I couldn't give less of a stuff about animal rights, but some of these arguments are fallacious. For one, eating meat is horribly ecologically inefficient. It takes many times more calories to produce a calorie of beef than it does a calorie of some generic vegetable. Apart from being more expensive, raising cattle pollutes the air and contaminates fresh water supplies with fecal matter. This is not to say that producing vegetables isn't ecologically inefficient, because it is. However, meat is much more 'expensive' in ecological terms than, say, corn.

9. Vegetarian food tastes like stuff. There's this place in Phoenix called Pita Jungle and it's the worst excuse for food I've ever tasted in my life. It's so terrible that I had to order 3 different things before I found something I could even choke down. It's garbage.

10. This point seems credible, but I'd have to factcheck whether the vitamins the author listed actually contribute to mental performance and ability.


I'm bored, and I have stuff to do. I'll respond to the remaining 12 points later.