Discuss transgender people and what they think. (I identify as a lizard!)

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Jesus Christ what is going on in this topic.
Can someone just sum up the past eight pages for me or something?

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[DrenDran]

no, I don't
and what are you talking about?

I took the time to reply to you a page or two ago, and you never bothered to respond.
I can only assume I was right and you didn't want to admit it lol

Jesus Christ what is going on in this topic.
Can someone just sum up the past eight pages for me or something?

I'm being a huge bigot by saying men have snakees and women don't.

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Males* and females*. There is a biological/psychological line between love and gender, as Headcrab Zombie said. The only time I personally ever bother being specific about it is if it actually matters at the time, such as when some moron makes a topic with a title that compares transloveuals/transgenders to "I'm a lizard!" and then claims he's somehow not a bigoted dumbass.

[BuildaBox]

Males* and females*. There is a biological/psychological line between love and gender, as Headcrab Zombie said. The only time I personally ever bother being specific about it is if it actually matters at the time, such as when some moron makes a topic with a title that compares transloveuals/transgenders to "I'm a lizard!" and then claims he's somehow not a bigoted dumbass.

Wow DrenDran get wrecked nub

[DrenDran]

Males* and females*. There is a biological/psychological line between love and gender, as Headcrab Zombie said. The only time I personally ever bother being specific about it is if it actually matters at the time, such as when some moron makes a topic with a title that compares transloveuals/transgenders to "I'm a lizard!" and then claims he's somehow not a bigoted dumbass.

How's it different?
Honestly.
You're saying you are something you're not.
Might as well call yourself a tree lol

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How's it different?
Honestly.
You're saying you are something you're not.
Might as well call yourself a tree lol

I have very minimal actual knowledge of this but I'll try to explain what little I do understand.
Essentially, the brain and the body do not always properly connect in terms of hormones and such: The brain can develop as a woman, and the body as a male. This, obviously, is not something anyone notices right off the bat, and the person in question has no real way of noticing until later in their life when they're a bit more knowledgeable in the world, causing the "decision" that they are the opposite gender.
Of course, I could be entirely incorrect and people are free to correct me if I am, that's just my understanding of it.

Comparing such to "I'm a lizard" or "I'm a tree" which are entirely different species and even a kingdom apart is a biiiit closed-minded.

[DrenDran]

I have very minimal actual knowledge of this but I'll try to explain what little I do understand.
Essentially, the brain and the body do not always properly connect in terms of hormones and such: The brain can develop as a woman, and the body as a male. This, obviously, is not something anyone notices right off the bat, and the person in question has no real way of noticing until later in their life when they're a bit more knowledgeable in the world, causing the "decision" that they are the opposite gender.
Of course, I could be entirely incorrect and people are free to correct me if I am, that's just my understanding of it.

This is how I understand it as well.

Comparing such to "I'm a lizard" or "I'm a tree" which are entirely different species and even a kingdom apart is a biiiit closed-minded.

Perhaps you haven't read the thread. I'm not against people getting love changes, I understand this is a legitmate mental disorder and just like any mental disorder I'd never judge them for it espically if they were getting the help they need.

What we're discussing here is people who don't have a love change and decide to make people refer to them as a new gender anyway.
This can cause a few problems, first if you're dating someone and are not made aware of this, what happens once you find out?

another thing I've wondered is what stops someone from, say, "identifying" as the oppisite gender just to go in their changing rooms and masturbate lol

[Skip]

The questions you ask range from common sense to "way out loving there" so I'm not even gonna bother.

[DrenDran]

The questions you ask range from common sense to "way out loving there" so I'm not even gonna bother.

i only asked two questions lol
not that hard

[ResonKinetic]

Hey, if I say I'm a woman, can I go into the ladies' dressing rooms?

[DrenDran]

Hey, if I say I'm a woman, can I go into the ladies' dressing rooms?

That's what I asked!
But Skip said that question was "way out loving there" so you might have to phrase it so he can understand.

[sir dooble]

What we're discussing here is people who don't have a love change and decide to make people refer to them as a new gender anyway.
This can cause a few problems, first if you're dating someone and are not made aware of this, what happens once you find out?

If you're dating someone who hasn't had a love change, but wants to be referred to as the opposite gender to what they biologically are?
Usually, most people tell others what they want to be known as. If they don't, you don't carry on dating with them, because they are lying to you.
You're just scared of having someone trick you. Which is fair, but unnecessary. That does not happen much at all.
If your relationship manages to go so far with them not telling you about themselves, then you're not in a good relationship at all.

another thing I've wondered is what stops someone from, say, "identifying" as the oppisite gender just to go in their changing rooms and masturbate lol

Because that person would be arrested and prosecuted.
I can't walk into a ladies toilets and just say "It's fine, I identify as a woman".
And I certainly couldn't sit in there whacking off.

People would complain, and they'd get in trouble.
Rules don't just disappear because someone identifies as a different gender.


You're just coming off as childish with these arguments.

[ResonKinetic]

I'm serious, if I can get my way into dressing rooms of the opposite gender just by identifying as a female, I'll do it.

And I couldn't be tried as a love offender, because I'm a strong and independent woman, damn it.

[DrenDran]

If you're dating someone who hasn't had a love change, but wants to be referred to as the opposite gender to what they biologically are?
Usually, most people tell others what they want to be known as. If they don't, you don't carry on dating with them, because they are lying to you.
You're just scared of having someone trick you. Which is fair, but unnecessary. That does not happen much at all.
If your relationship manages to go so far with them not telling you about themselves, then you're not in a good relationship at all.

It might become more common, and besides, I don't have to only think of myself, do I?

Because that person would be arrested and prosecuted.
I can't walk into a ladies toilets and just say "It's fine, I identify as a woman".
And I certainly couldn't sit in there whacking off.

People would complain, and they'd get in trouble.
Rules don't just disappear because someone identifies as a different gender.


You're just coming off as childish with these arguments.

Actually trans people are fighting for (and in some cases, getting) their 'right' to use the facilities of their gender 'identity'.
This one is a more valid argument than you think.

Unless you actually catch them jerking off you can't do anything about it either.
Because what if they "really were" that gender, then you'd be seriously insulting them and depriving them of their rights.

[WooIysRevived]

I have very minimal actual knowledge of this but I'll try to explain what little I do understand.
Essentially, the brain and the body do not always properly connect in terms of hormones and such: The brain can develop as a woman, and the body as a male. This, obviously, is not something anyone notices right off the bat, and the person in question has no real way of noticing until later in their life when they're a bit more knowledgeable in the world, causing the "decision" that they are the opposite gender.
Of course, I could be entirely incorrect and people are free to correct me if I am, that's just my understanding of it.

Comparing such to "I'm a lizard" or "I'm a tree" which are entirely different species and even a kingdom apart is a biiiit closed-minded.

Uhh no... I don't know what you're even doing when you claimed you knew almost nothing.