Clearing up some things

[hodototman]

wow it's a good thing i don't give a stuff about what happened in the religion-making times

otherwise i'd have to pore over this 4chan copypasta with my richard in my hand.

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[.::Taboo::.]

For intellectual debate?
Doesn't seem that hard to figure out.

do you even know where you are

[Waru]

Why don't you want the thread to exist?  I don't get it, how in the world does it affect you negatively for someone to want to gather knowledge and information based on other ideologies which oppose theirs?

I was referencing the people prompting this argument as a whole, not you specifically.

because, as i have said, this happens all the time. not only did you already post it on 4chan, but you could have looked through the hundreds of threads previously created instead of starting an unwanted new one if you really wanted to see our opinions.

[Lalam24]

because, as i have said, this happens all the time. not only did you already post it on 4chan, but you could have looked through the hundreds of threads previously created instead of starting an unwanted new one if you really wanted to see our opinions.

I wanted a new one because I wanted to start with a clean slate.  Me posting it on 4chan doesn't help your argument at all.  I wanted people to oppose this civilly, not attack it based on a preexisting, purposely insultive topic.

do you even know where you are

I've been over this already.  I know many people here have the competence to debate well, which mysteroo has already shown us.

[Mysteroo]

The existence of egyptian gods and goddesses were certainly around for longer than judaism.

Well looking at the old testament it seems to work fine. It says Judaism was a less popular religion held by a weaker group of people when Egypt was beginning to take power and become popular. So it would make plenty of sense to say that evidence of Egyptian culture and Gods predate that of Jewish culture. But again, that's a whole different argument. I don't know enough about the matter to really debate it

Technically seeing the development of different cultures based on environment and location is evidence of evolution.  Sherpa's having the climate adaptation for the thinner air is a good example.

I don't really see how. That's evidence that people have the capacity to adapt their actions and culture to survive better, not necessarily that large scale changes in genetics took place over time.

[Lalam24]

Well looking at the old testament it seems to work fine. It says Judaism was a less popular religion held by a weaker group of people when Egypt was beginning to take power and become popular. So it would make plenty of sense to say that evidence of Egyptian culture and Gods predate that of Jewish culture. But again, that's a whole different argument. I don't know enough about the matter to really debate it
I don't really see how. That's evidence that people have the capacity to adapt their actions and culture to survive better, not necessarily that large scale changes in genetics took place over time.

No no no, it's a genetic evolution based on mutation with how their lungs work.  This isn't conforming to societal prospect.

[Bloody Mary]

I have a question: why did you post this to /pol/, and then 21 minutes later to the blockland forums? It seems out of place in terms of actual argumentative context, as the OP specially mentions thing that /pol/ is obsessed over. (homoloveuality, the jews) It makes me think that the entire OP was made for /pol/ and only /pol/. If you truly were the author of both posts, why bother even taking it to these forums?

[Waru]

I wanted a new one because I wanted to start with a clean slate.  Me posting it on 4chan doesn't help your argument at all.  I wanted people to oppose this civilly, not attack it based on a preexisting, purposely insultive topic.
I've been over this already.  I know many people here have the competence to debate well, which mysteroo has already shown us.

you act like there haven't been handfuls of "lets have a civil discussion about religion and homoloveuality!" before also. needless to say, they went to stuff because nobody wants to see it and its annoying. but go ahead, have a "civil debate" for the 50th time. who's stopping you? not me.

[Mysteroo]

No no no, it's a genetic evolution based on mutation with how their lungs work.  This isn't conforming to societal prospect.

Oh yeah that, I know what you're talking about now

I don't doubt that some changed happen based on climate change, they do. But I don't think it happens like evolution suggests.
Evolution suggests that a mutation happens, and due to climate and such, that mutation outlives the normal genetic setup, and so it continues on. Survival of the fittest. But that's not quite what happened there- people who lived there for long periods of time developed more powerful lungs to take in more air, that wasn't genetic, it was just the body's natural plasticity. Like building muscle in response to stress

Some genetic mutations do happen though, else we wouldn't have such a wide variety of dogs. I just don't think it happens on such a scale that we'd get anything other than a dog over time

[Lalam24]

I have a question: why did you post this to /pol/, and then 21 minutes later to the blockland forums? It seems out of place in terms of actual argumentative context, as the OP specially mentions thing that /pol/ is obsessed over. (homoloveuality, the jews) It makes me think that the entire OP was made for /pol/ and only /pol/. If you truly were the author of both posts, why bother even taking it to these forums?

It was actually meant for /pol/, but I wanted to share it here knowing the diversity on some of the opinions on this forum.  Again, the OP uses information which only existed once I posted it to back up the first counterargument he posts.  I don't think there's much evidence otherwise that states the OP isn't me.  Just because you found out about it being posted elsewhere doesn't imply it's correct to assume I didn't also post it there.

you act like there haven't been handfuls of "lets have a civil discussion about religion and homoloveuality!" before also. needless to say, they went to stuff because nobody wants to see it and its annoying. but go ahead, have a "civil debate" for the 50th time. who's stopping you? not me.

Some people don't mind talking about it, then others just can't handle controversial topics being discussed.  I assume it's because they hate leaving their comfort zone, but I don't know.  That's another thing we can discuss here.

Oh yeah that, I know what you're talking about now

I don't doubt that some changed happen based on climate change, they do. But I don't think it happens like evolution suggests.
Evolution suggests that a mutation happens, and due to climate and such, that mutation outlives the normal genetic setup, and so it continues on. Survival of the fittest. But that's not quite what happened there- people who lived there for long periods of time developed more powerful lungs to take in more air, that wasn't genetic, it was just the body's natural plasticity. Like building muscle in response to stress

Some genetic mutations do happen though, else we wouldn't have such a wide variety of dogs. I just don't think it happens on such a scale that we'd get anything other than a dog over time

however the genetic make up has to change over time for the offspring to have lungs which are simply more tough from birth.

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I've been over this already.  I know many people here have the competence to debate well, which mysteroo has already shown us.

then contact them directly

[Lalam24]

then contact them directly

Why can't I expect some people to have an open debate in a single topic?  Because I should first expect people like you to attack the OP's intent?  Again, learn how to play devil's advocate.  Being under the impression that your opinion depicts the reasoning for all and every topic available is silly.

[Bloody Mary]

It was actually meant for /pol/, but I wanted to share it here knowing the diversity on some of the opinions on this forum.  Again, the OP uses information which only existed once I posted it to back up the first counterargument he posts.  I don't think there's much evidence otherwise that states the OP isn't me.  Just because you found out about it being posted elsewhere doesn't imply it's correct to assume I didn't also post it there.

Wait, I don't exactly follow. Did you or did you not post this to /pol/? I feel like I have not gotten a clear answer yet.

[Lalam24]

Wait, I don't exactly follow. Did you or did you not post this to /pol/? I feel like I have not gotten a clear answer yet.

Then you haven't been reading it right.  Yes, I posted this on /pol/.  For the third time, the OP posted an argument VERBATIM which was posted about a year ago on this forum by me, and didn't exist before then.  Assuming we're both plagiarizing each other instead of assuming we're the same person doesn't make much sense.

[Mysteroo]

however the genetic make up has to change over time for the offspring to have lungs which are simply more tough from birth.

Eh, I don't think that's really the same thing. The lung change just seems like a body's response to thin air, to be born with stronger lungs would be like being born with stronger muscles because your parents worked out a lot. It doesn't work that way

But-

Some genetic mutations do happen though, else we wouldn't have such a wide variety of dogs. I just don't think it happens on such a scale that we'd get anything other than a dog over time

I've been over this already.  I know many people here have the competence to debate well,

this
There's nothing wrong with the topic. If people decide to freak out and be insulting and argue rather than act their age, that's their fault. Not Lalam's