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Being an atheist, no. None of my family prays (like, ever) and I don't think very many of my friends do. In fact, I've never seen anyone pray before a meal IRL.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2013, 04:17:34 PM by TristanLuigi »

As far as my family goes.
My immediate family never prays
Most of my extended family (on my mother's side at least, I rarely eat with my father's side to know) only pray at family gatherings, which are usually on holidays
One of my aunt and uncles (the ones I described in a previous post) pray before every dinner


Better hang out with more of them then
Why would I want to do that though
I mean I'm not going to avoid going somewhere just because they're christian
But I'm not going to actively seek them out
« Last Edit: October 26, 2013, 04:35:15 PM by Headcrab Zombie »

People ensuring you pray before a meal is preaching.  The lack thereof any ritualistic activity in a family gathering is an unbiased practice.

I'm biased, sure, but the absence of ensuring others follow your religious practices is not.  Keep in mind, it's also something I find humorous because of how ridiculous it is.  There's a difference between blatant disrespect and learning how to make fun of the basics.  People who find praying before eating a touchy subject are pathetic.

Lalam, you are a hypocrite.  You are telling everyone to stop preaching, and even mentioning, their beliefs.  Then you preach your atheism to us and why such a minor thing such as praying before eating is so stupid.  Something isn't right here.

Lalam, you are a hypocrite.  You are telling everyone to stop preaching, and even mentioning, their beliefs.  Then you preach your atheism to us and why such a minor thing such as praying before eating is so stupid.  Something isn't right here.
Thats just the way he is. There's really nothing to bother addressing about it. *shrug*

Lalam, you are a hypocrite.  You are telling everyone to stop preaching, and even mentioning, their beliefs.  Then you preach your atheism to us and why such a minor thing such as praying before eating is so stupid.  Something isn't right here.
That is one of the reasons why I don't identify with atheism is the hypocrites.
"Yeah, religion is oppressive and stuff."
"My parents force me to go to church."
and then...
"forget religion, science explains everything."
"Religion is outdated and should be removed society."
"Religion is for the simple minded, however we have class and knowledge."

How about respecting other people's beliefs and letting them practice what they want. Not
"Oh my belief is clearly superior because blahblahblah, so go red x book."

"forget religion, science explains everything."
"Religion is outdated and should be removed society."
"Religion is for the simple minded, however we have class and knowledge."
"Oh my belief is clearly superior because blahblahblah, so go red x book."
I see people say things like that all the time online where they can hide behind a mask of anonymity But I've never seen anyone say anything like this is real life, except among peers who all feel the same way.
And while some people may truly feel that religion should be outlawed, I've never seen anyone make attempts to actually push for it.
Conversely, go to any downtown area and you'll see people screaming at people that god hates them and they're going to burn in hell.
And religious people use their religion to justify all sorts of laws they want passed, or hateful actions they perform all the time.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2013, 04:42:53 PM by Headcrab Zombie »

I see people say things like that all the time online where they can hide behind a mask of anonymity.
This.

This is why I figure the internet is never good for debate on this particular subject.

How about respecting other people's beliefs and letting them practice what they want. Not

Lalam: "Oh my belief is clearly superior because blahblahblah, so go red x book."

But yeah, religions have been on Earth for, like, ever.  According to the Bible (probably other books as well), religion is as old as time itself.  It's not like it's going to be removed from the Earth anytime soon, if ever.

Also, this says that 73% of people in America claim to be Christians.  That puts atheists in the minority (unlike what they think).  Probably about 5% of atheists are like Lalam though.

However...

...the internet is never good for debate on this particular subject.



73% of people in America claim to be Christians.  That puts atheists in the minority (unlike what they think).  Probably about 5% of atheists are like Lalam though.


Don't be shocked but

a good portion of that are people who are lying.

That puts atheists in the minority (unlike what they think).
What? I've never heard someone claim that atheists where not a minority.


But yeah, religions have been on Earth for, like, ever.  According to the Bible (probably other books as well), religion is as old as time itself.  It's not like it's going to be removed from the Earth anytime soon, if ever.
I think it eventually will become a minority, but I don't think it will ever completely disappear.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2013, 04:53:22 PM by Headcrab Zombie »

Where I live there arent many religious people.

My point of view is way different then most of yours.

Don't be shocked but

a good portion of that are people who are lying.

That's why I said "claim".

What? I've never heard someone claim that atheists where not a minority.

Ok, maybe just from what I've heard.  I shouldn't have said that as a stereotype to "all" of them think that.  Sorry.

I think it eventually will become a minority, but I don't think it will ever completely disappear.

Who knows, probably won't happen in this lifetime.  But it is entirely possible.  It has dropped like 10% in the past 20 years.

Lalam, you are a hypocrite.  You are telling everyone to stop preaching, and even mentioning, their beliefs.  Then you preach your atheism to us and why such a minor thing such as praying before eating is so stupid.  Something isn't right here.
That is one of the reasons why I don't identify with atheism is the hypocrites.
"Yeah, religion is oppressive and stuff."
"My parents force me to go to church."
and then...
"forget religion, science explains everything."
"Religion is outdated and should be removed society."
"Religion is for the simple minded, however we have class and knowledge."

How about respecting other people's beliefs and letting them practice what they want. Not
"Oh my belief is clearly superior because blahblahblah, so go red x book."
I'm prompting the absence of something.  I'm not forcing you to do anything against your will, neither am I saying you have to believe X or what have you.  When I'm in a religious debate, I use the religion against itself, and I inform people of mistakes that their beliefs hold, NOT the mistakes in their belief based on my personal preference.  Just so we're clear, mathematics isn't an ideology.

What the problem here is that you've failed to read many of my posts which identify both atheists and theists as having negative outcomes.  I'm consistently playing devil's advocate -- I think modern day biology is a fantastic element of learning, but I believe we've still MUCH more to learn about how organisms work.  I personally believe evolultion occured, but I never use it to argue against someone's religious beliefs.  I never use scientific theory (aside from the earth not being flat and the sun not revolving around the earth) against someone's religious beliefs.  I use fact based on the only perception I have.  I do not go out and push people around for having beliefs that differ from mine.  I tend to retaliate more than anything, but I do in fact bring up the subject, which is often seen as me being pretentious or oppressive.  I've stated in the past I'm open to intellectual debate, not pissing competitions or pointless banter.

Take from that what you will, but assuming hypocrisy based on argumentative behaviors is so antiproductive is hilarious.  If you had nothing to question your beliefs, you would be nothing but sheep -- and I hope that that isn't the case.

Oh, and I can assure you I'm open about this in public.  Stop making stuff up to further an argument.

That puts atheists in the minority (unlike what they think).
Oh, yeah, because your statistic on what atheists believe is definitely true.  Instead of getting on my ass for making reasonable assumption and presenting fact, how about you reread what you're constantly spewing and assume you may be in the wrong.  Again, try playing devil's advocate, instead of being incredibly stubborn about your belief system.

Also, though religion is very old, its original principles (polytheism and the like) are no longer practiced, yet ancient literature is what fueled all modern day religious beliefs.  Take, for example, the fact that the story of Noah's Ark was adapted from the poem The Epic of Giglamesh, written many many years before your Christ was born.

Thats just the way he is. There's really nothing to bother addressing about it. *shrug*
There's a difference between addressing something and bombarding someone with nothing but useless ad hominem.  If you've got an argument which you can speak of otherwise, go for it, but I tend not to get on someone's ass if they know what they're talking about.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2013, 05:24:25 PM by Lalam24 »

Also, this says that 73% of people in America claim to be Christians.  That puts atheists in the minority (unlike what they think).  Probably about 5% of atheists are like Lalam though.
You're missing the point because you don't know what "they" are saying. "they think" that churches are full of "atheists" that are saying they believe in a certain religion.

Let's try this again:

That puts atheists in the minority (unlike what they think).

Ok, maybe just from what I've heard.  I shouldn't have said that as a stereotype to "all" of them think that.  Sorry.

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