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I hate how the mere thought of any of these things is now common as opposed to 30 years ago.

actually its not much different



Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#Homicide
The US homicide rate, which has declined substantially since 1992 from a rate per 100,000 persons of 9.8 to 4.8 in 2010


I hate how the mere thought of any of these things is now common as opposed to 30 years ago.

when was the last time an automatic weapon was used in these mass shootings?
its been decades lol. less then i can count on my 2 hands that happened in 100 years.
To be honest, I don't know, and it doesn't really bother me cause I know it's extremely rare
that said, I think the naval yard shooting had an automatic rifle but I'm not 100% on that.

You know what I hate?

everything
That's not guns
that's mental stability
guns don't drive people insane and push them over the brink, guns ARE the brink. A tool, if you will. Almost every killing spree I have ever heard of, the shooter had poor mental health, was unstable, and had some form of depression or social disorder.
Stop focusing on the "ban the guns"
focus on the healthcare, caring for people, humanity working as one, etc

Very rarely does a shooter have a reason. They just want a release or a dramatic exit. They also wear clothes when they go shooting, most drive cars to the area, they probably have wristwatches, glasses, etc? Can we ban those because a shooter used them? No. But we can ban a gun because it's a weapon of mass destruction.

Consider this:
In the last three decades, there have been 62 mass shootings. Humor me and say that's 1 shooter per shooting. The US population as of posting this is roughly 314,000,000. 314 million. 62/314,000,000. I dunno how many ways I can put this, the amount of people abusing firearms is so infinitesimally small that this honestly shouldn't even be considered a national crCIA, it's only a big deal because news media makes money by showing us all the ugly stuff that goes on. How many times have you heard of a school saved by a resource officer with a gun, or a concealed carry gun owner taking down a criminal, or a violent crime being stopped via self defense. Not on CNN I'll tell you that much.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2014, 09:34:09 PM by AdinX »

That's not guns
that's mental stability
guns don't drive people insane and push them over the brink, guns ARE the brink. A tool, if you will. Almost every killing spree I have ever heard of, the shooter had poor mental health, was unstable, and had some form of depression or social disorder.
Stop focusing on the "ban the guns"
focus on the healthcare, caring for people, humanity working as one, etc

Very rarely does a shooter have a reason. They just want a release or a dramatic exit. They also wear clothes when they go shooting, most drive cars to the area, they probably have wristwatches, glasses, etc? Can we ban those because a shooter used them? No. But we can ban a gun because it's a weapon of mass destruction.

Consider this:
In the last three decades, there have been 62 mass shootings. Humor me and say that's 1 shooter per shooting. The US population as of posting this is roughly 314,000,000. 314 million. 62/314,000,000. I dunno how many ways I can put this, the amount of people abusing firearms is so infinitesimally small that this honestly shouldn't even be considered a national crCIA, it's only a big deal because news media makes money by showing us all the ugly stuff that goes on. How many times have you heard of a school saved by a resource officer with a gun, or a concealed carry gun owner taking down a criminal, or a violent crime being stopped via self defense. Not on CNN I'll tell you that much.
I know it's not specific to guns, but guns are a major factor to blame as far as why people have this sort of mentality nowadays. My dad has told me stories of how his family didn't lock the doors when going to sleep because there was no reason to. This was a good time. Guns were not a problem then. I wish that we could go back to that sort of thinking.

I just want there to be no reason for going to great lengths just to protect people

I know it's not specific to guns, but guns are a major factor to blame as far as why people have this sort of mentality nowadays. My dad has told me stories of how his family didn't lock the doors when going to sleep because there was no reason to. This was a good time. Guns were not a problem then. I wish that we could go back to that sort of thinking.

But yet when a man drunkenly runs over your family
We blame the man, and sometimes the alcohol. Of course it wasn't the car, it was being driven, and it's a tool! We use it to travel!

Did your dad, per chance, live in the ghetto? Or maybe in an area where there was a REALLY high crime rate, like parts of New York maybe? No? Wow that's surprising! 100% sarcasm

You misunderstand. There is no mentality for guns. What I feel while shooting down range, and what you feel can be totally different. When I'm on the range, I give 100% of my focus to the gun so that I can protect myself and others. I don't, however, think to myself "man, I am shreddin' that bulls-eye, I could take out an army of human beings!" That's not my mentality. That's the mentality of a mentally unwell person.

But yet when a man drunkenly runs over your family
We blame the man, and sometimes the alcohol. Of course it wasn't the car, it was being driven, and it's a tool! We use it to travel!

Did your dad, per chance, live in the ghetto? Or maybe in an area where there was a REALLY high crime rate, like parts of New York maybe? No? Wow that's surprising! 100% sarcasm

You misunderstand. There is no mentality for guns. What I feel while shooting down range, and what you feel can be totally different. When I'm on the range, I give 100% of my focus to the gun so that I can protect myself and others. I don't, however, think to myself "man, I am shreddin' that bulls-eye, I could take out an army of human beings!" That's not my mentality. That's the mentality of a mentally unwell person.
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It has nothing to do with what I'm talking about

All these people talking about England and Austrailia having gun bans and a low crime rate is making me laugh.  Have you guys not thought about Switzerland?  Just about everyone has a gun and they have the lowest crime rate in the world iirc.  You can't compare the US with almost any other country.

was the op's question answered yet

But yet when a man drunkenly runs over your family
We blame the man, and sometimes the alcohol. Of course it wasn't the car, it was being driven, and it's a tool! We use it to travel!
but cars have more of a purpose than just sport

I know it's not specific to guns, but guns are a major factor to blame as far as why people have this sort of mentality nowadays. My dad has told me stories of how his family didn't lock the doors when going to sleep because there was no reason to. This was a good time. Guns were not a problem then. I wish that we could go back to that sort of thinking.

guns aren't the reason society is failing.

It's in part caused by our educational system going to complete stuff

You can blame video games and the internet and TV but in reality those things aren't the reason.  Neither are guns themselves.  Education is stuffty here now and most peoples parents have no loving clue how to raise kids so the next generation will be a bunch of forgetwads who don't know how to function past " eat, sleep, piss, stuff, forget".

Banning things doesn't solve problems. Marijuana was banned, and have people stopped using it?
No, it just turned the people that DO use it into criminals. If you turn a black market into a white market you can regulate it and earn a profit, but if you keep it illegal then it can be a real problem.

I don't like guns, and I think the country would be better if nobody had them, but BANNING them is not the way to go. People wouldn't get rid of their guns, they would just become criminals for owning them. I do think they need to be regulated and monitored, for example, if they had trackers in them that detected every time it was fired and where it was fired. That way they could be used for defense but would be an ineffective murder weapon.

I'm not referring to hunting weapons, obviously. They are a different matter.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2014, 10:52:42 PM by McZealot »

if they had trackers in them that detected every time it was fired and where it was fired.

yeah thats definitely enforceable and not an invasion of privacy

yeah thats definitely enforceable and not an invasion of privacy
How is it an invasion of privacy? It's an armed weapon that is designed to kill people-- if it's being used the police need to know.
Not to mention it's so loud everyone within 5 miles will know about it, doesn't sound very private to me.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2014, 10:51:49 PM by McZealot »

yeah thats definitely enforceable and not an invasion of privacy
i thought shooting a gun wasnt a very private thing

you also can't steal a howitzer and fire artillery shells at elementary schools
because it takes common sense to be able to operate
Since you're getting all defensive and ostentatious about how many big guns you have, you should probably remember that I'm pro-gun. My point was that it's a dumb brown townogy because gay marriages cannot fire projectiles/blow up schools/etc.