THE (RESTRICTION) OF RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS!

[the hacker]

why the forget would a civilian need an AR15

Any form of apocalypse, duh. I have two.

[Ad Bot]

[-Blok-]

guns aren't the reason society is failing.

I never said...

Ok, let me put it like this. You know how sometimes you think about a school being shot up, or someone pulling a gun on you, or someone setting a bomb off, or even just remembering to lock your doors once you get inside your house.

These use to not be things. 30 or so years ago, these weren't even thought of. Schools weren't shot up and the thought of it was ridiculous. They didn't have lock-down drills. Teachers weren't required to know how to handle an intruder.

If you got into a fight with someone, they didn't flash/pull their gun; you fought it out. There was no reason for someone to have a gun on them back then.

People hardly ever locked their doors. Nowadays, even in really nice neighborhoods, people always lock their doors. Even I think it's crazy to not lock your doors, but it was way different back then and I have no understanding of that.

I really wish I was unable to understand what a school shooting was, or that I could sleep at night knowing my doors are unlocked.

[Swat 3]

All these people talking about England and Austrailia having gun bans and a low crime rate is making me laugh.  Have you guys not thought about Switzerland?  Just about everyone has a gun and they have the lowest crime rate in the world iirc.  You can't compare the US with almost any other country.

Population.

One word.
Essentially America is eternally forgeted because our two-party system arguing about this, democratic liberals and republican conservatives*.

Guns vs. Guns is much more better than the 'liberal' preferred Lamp-in-defense-until-popo-come vs. Murderous Gunner.

[ABlockOfCheese]

I never said...

Ok, let me put it like this. You know how sometimes you think about a school being shot up, or someone pulling a gun on you, or someone setting a bomb off, or even just remembering to lock your doors once you get inside your house.

These use to not be things. 30 or so years ago, these weren't even thought of. Schools weren't shot up and the thought of it was ridiculous. They didn't have lock-down drills. Teachers weren't required to know how to handle an intruder.

If you got into a fight with someone, they didn't flash/pull their gun; you fought it out. There was no reason for someone to have a gun on them back then.

People hardly ever locked their doors. Nowadays, even in really nice neighborhoods, people always lock their doors. Even I think it's crazy to not lock your doors, but it was way different back then and I have no understanding of that.

I really wish I was unable to understand what a school shooting was, or that I could sleep at night knowing my doors are unlocked.

what does just about every honor student have in common?

Mental issues.  They guys who shot up columbine and the one who shot up Newtown's Elementary school had a history of mental problems, and they should've never been given access to guns in the first place.  And if you think people used to never lock your doors just because you heard one family member talking about it, you are being extremely narrow minded.  Especially as late as 30 years ago.

[Mikoyan]

What people need to realize is that the United States was forged from a rebellion. The second amendment wasn't put there for damned hunters and self defense from criminals. It was put there for self defense of people from the government.

The government banning certain guns just because they're military or assault grade weapons completely defies the constitution. We the people are just letting ourselves being taken over more and more by the federal government very slowly if we allow bans. Just another step in their process imo.

[ABlockOfCheese]

What people need to realize is that the United States was forged from a rebellion. The second amendment wasn't put there for damned hunters and self defense from criminals. It was put there for self defense of people from the government.

The government banning certain guns just because they're military or assault grade weapons completely defies the constitution. We the people are just letting ourselves being taken over more and more by the federal government very slowly if we allow bans. Just another step in their process imo.

this

[DrenDran]

You know what I hate?

I hate how schools need lock-down drills. I hate how, taped to the wall next to every door in our school, is a cable tie that's used to wrap around the top of the door to prevent intruders from opening the door. I hate how kids are now being taught to, during a lock-down, look for objects that can be used to throw at or hit an intruder with. I hate the idea that an intruder, if smart, could simply pull the fire alarm, wait for everyone to exit the school, and then start firing. I hate how popping balloons is not allowed in our school because it may be interpreted as a gun shot. I hate how, as I walk from building to building at my school, the thought of someone lying on the hill across from our campus with a sniper rifle sometimes goes through my head. I hate how people need extensive security systems for their homes. I hate how people feel the need to carry a firearm for protection. I hate how, right now, at this very second, I am aware of the possibility that someone might break into my house and kill me and my entire family. I hate how the mere thought of any of these things is now common as opposed to 30 years ago.

That's what I hate.

I've always been more anti-gun than pro-gun, but at this point, I really don't care how it's fixed. I just want there to be no reason for going to great lengths just to protect people from said guns.

You're more likely to die in a car crash than to get shot in a mass shooting.
You're just really loving paranoid, don't blame guns for that.

[Harm94]

From the other thread:

My classification for "assault rifle" as far as military rifles go. The term it self was coined by Riddler when he was introduced the Stermgweher.
1. A weapon that has a detachable magazine
2. Fires intermediate rifle catridges such as 5.56, .223(almost the same thing as 5.56), or 7.62x39.
3. Fixed/Folding/Collapsible stock
5. optional bayonet lug
6. Optional select fire(semi, full/burst)
7. Intended for mid to close quarters combat
8. Status depends of how the rifle is used (hunting, military, security)

AR15 =/= M4


This is an AR-15 lower receiver, it is nothing more than an empty shell used to house all parts. It is just like a computer case.

If AR15's didn't look like that, then I doubt anyone would be calling them military rifles.

This is the mini-14

It can fire .223 and 5.56, has a detachable magazine and can use the same magazine as the ar15. Functions the same way, but it doesn't look like a scary military rifle.

This is also a mini-14, but the wooden body was removed and the moving parts were inserted into a new body. Look scary now? Point is, looks can be deceiving. Just because it looks military doesn't mean it is.

Also like the word assault rifle, sniper rifle is a just an umbrella term. I can take any rifle and put a scope on it, and suddenly it is now a sniper rifle. Also you are more likely to be killed by someone you know than a compete stranger. It happens all the time to people when you work in law enforcement. Often you go to calls involving petty love triangles where one lover who feels cheated kills the other.

[Stocking]

From: Ed Chenel, a police officer in Australia.

Hi Yanks,

I thought you all would like to see the real figures from Down Under.

It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by a new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by our own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.

The first year results are now in: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent, Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent; Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent!). In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. (Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not and criminals still possess their guns!)

While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.

There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the elderly. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in "successfully ridding Australian society of guns."

You won't see this data on the American evening news or hear your governor or members of the state Assembly disseminating this information.

The Australian experience proves it. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens.

Take note Americans, before it's too late!
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp#2DRlyhejAdQ8LIe5.99

[ShadowsfeaR]

I wanna get my FFL and build an AR-15 :(

[Harm94]

Gotta reload with my high capacity clip

[DrenDran]

Gotta reload with my high capacity clip

why stop there!
just keep going until you've practically got a full circle of rounds

[Harm94]

Yes, so I can kill more facists, commies, and authoritarian regimes without having to reload.

[Anybody]

i wouldn't want huge paws, kinda inconvenient

[Threule]

give everyone a loving m4 and see how that returns.