would pirating fallout 1 and 2 be justifiable/legal?

[Omicron Corp]

fallout 1 and 2 aren't available for sale anymore. is it fine to pirate those games because of that?

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[Blockguy345]

GoG offered them for free a few weeks ago

but just to be on the safe side i wouldn't do it

[Crazy Salt]

no
http://store.steampowered.com/app/38400/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/38410/

[Blockguy345]

no
http://store.steampowered.com/app/38400/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/38410/

well you see
you can't buy them
i don't see a "buy" button

[Nonnel]

hey yeah wtf you can't buy them on steam anymore

[Flamecannon]

speaking of that's a bit of an odd choice for a gameplay screenshot there
the game over fmv from giving the mutants info

[Crazy Salt]

well you see
you can't buy them
i don't see a "buy" button

Wow, idk how i didn't notice that .

[Jubel]

i dont think so unless its classified as abandonware

[Omicron Corp]

Wow, idk how i didn't notice that .

hey yeah wtf you can't buy them on steam anymore

you can't buy it like anywhere at all

[Schrödinger]

You could always just get it off eBay or some stuff.

[Jaxx]

they're currently floating in muddy legal waters due to the bethesda/interplay rights fiasco. they're not actual abandonware, though, so it's still pirating.

[Bisjac]

there actually is no such thing as abandonware.

its just the fake term people use to refer to software that no one will care is shared.
technically someone still owns the rights. and technically no permission was ever given to openly allow it to be shared.
but its accepted as safe to download because its never expected to be enforced. these are nearly 100%, games that CANNOT earn money, even if they tried.

[Choi]

there actually is no such thing as abandonware.

its just the fake term people use to refer to software that no one will care is shared.
technically someone still owns the rights. and technically no permission was ever given to openly allow it to be shared.
but its accepted as safe to download because its never expected to be enforced. these are nearly 100%, games that CANNOT earn money, even if they tried.

Isn't that why we call it abandonware

[Omicron Corp]

actually just tried the demo. such stuffty game mechanics that i don't want this game anymore

[Bisjac]

Isn't that why we call it abandonware

no, because they arent abandoned. they just arent retailed anymore. thats not the same thing.