Tennessee passes bill allowing bullying to other LGBT students

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History buffs.
Did American troops round up homoloveuals and force them to live in camps? No. Did American soldiers shoot up all gay neighborhoods? Nope. Were they taken from there families to fight in a war they didn't want to fight and end being treated as second class citizens once they came home? Nope. Or have their languages taken from them and have them classified to be used as secret code to fight the Japenese? Nope. Are there given false messages of getting federal aid to fix their crumbling and barely habitable communities? Nope? How many famous Native American's are there in media compared to Gays and Lesbians? Have you seen a Native Reservation in person? Most of them are pretty ugly and having crumbling buildings. They are broken people, they have no hope, they all live a cycle of poverty.
Fair enough. While I think your citations from the pass are nil at this point (we're talking about current issues, not how much America forgeted Native Americans) living on reservations is pretty bad, there's rampant alcoholism and poverty. fair enough. my point still stands, you can support LGBTQ rights AND native americans.

Koreans Civilians weren't killed out of malice, they either happened to live in the war zone and get bombed or get caught in the cross fire or get frozen and starved because the opposing armies took their resources. does malice really matter when it comes to killing 4 million civilians? especially since at the end of the war we were back at the 38th parallel? regardless, malice isn't really a factor in this kind of argument.

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[Harm94]

Sure you can support both, but in the end the group that gets more attention is better off.

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http://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/108/Bill/SB1793.pdf

Here you all go.

Also, love how this thread turned into a discussion on evolution, native americans, and moving to other nations with less freedom than the U.S. Good to see we're all on task.

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uh yeah, cause people are often that goddamn dumb on this forum.

yeah you just proved your own point there
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Lol @ native americans who are living in poverty in the background with no support while all the LBGTQ crowd gets all the media and legislation and stuff.

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[Planr]

That source you're linking to OP is heavily biased and only portrays the issue from your point of view.
How about you find a more reliable source?

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http://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/108/Bill/SB1793.pdf

Here you all go.

So I briefly glanced over this
Can anyone tell me where people are getting the idea this promotes bullying?
Most of this stuff you're already allowed to do anyways

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Can anyone tell me where people are getting the idea this promotes bullying?

It doesn't. The OP and their article are sensationalized.

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Yeah people really like to overthink stuff. Either they're just too stupid or they just like drama.

[Epicduke]

OP read the damn bill, it doesn't support bullying at all

[Char]

it may not support bullying, but still

While purporting to prevent discrimination against students expressing religious viewpoints, SB 1793/HB 1547 crosses the line from protecting religious freedom into creating systematic imposition of some students’ personal religious viewpoints on other students.

Students’ right to express and practice their own religious faith in the public schools is already well-protected by the U.S. Constitution and existing law, so the portions of this bill allowing students to start religious clubs and to voluntarily pray and express religious viewpoints, are unnecessary.

But this bill also encourages religious coercion, requiring local school boards to establish a system for selecting student speakers and allow those students to express their beliefs about religion in a variety of inappropriate settings, from the classroom to school-day assemblies and school events. Should this pass, students with a range of religious beliefs, as well as non-believers, would likely routinely be required to listen to religious messages or participate in religious exercises that conflict with their own beliefs.

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[Harm94]

From what I have interpreted from the ACLU's interpretation of the bill, they sound like they are worried this bill will force students to join religious clubs. I don't know of any schools that would force/require a student to be part of any club whether it be games club, anime club, that pusillanimous individual brony club, art club, book club, or paintball club, or whatever other clubs exist.

They seem worried that these students will be forced to hear religious messages and be offended by it. Well propaganda is propaganda no matter what is whether it be ads for buying stuff, to join a charity, religious, nonreligious, nationalistic. At my bus station there is this guy who preaches religious messages all the time, and all I do is ignore him. Simple as that. But they are like "Oh no, I am forced to listen to some Christ cigarette, muh right to euphoria!". I can only imagine the huge backlash that were to interrupt if a group of students were Islamic, Sikh, or Buddhist were denied having a club for the same reasons the ACLU gives.

[Char]

From what I have interpreted from the ACLU's interpretation of the bill, they sound like they are worried this bill will force students to join religious clubs.

...no

They seem worried that these students will be forced to hear religious messages and be offended by it. Well propaganda is propaganda no matter what is whether it be ads for buying stuff, to join a charity, religious, nonreligious, nationalistic. At my bus station there is this guy who preaches religious messages all the time, and all I do is ignore him. Simple as that. But they are like "Oh no, I am forced to listen to some Christ cigarette, muh right to euphoria!".

that's not it at all
the students can express their religious beliefs in anything including places it normally can't (like a science class)

i don't know why you seemingly think the ACLU is some "anti-Christian" organization...

I can only imagine the huge backlash that were to interrupt if a group of students were Islamic, Sikh, or Buddhist were denied having a club for the same reasons the ACLU gives.

BUT THEY WOULDN'T BE DENIED HAVING A CLUB
they can already make clubs if they want to, and if they couldn't, that would be unconstitutional.