who gives a stuff about teirs?????
its all about how cool you look BB))))
and besides, I said that I haven't seen anybody use Ice Climbers, never have I said that nobody uses them.
What? If they're 2nd tier, they're bound to be used by most top players, (if they're not banned, which I believe they were almost never banned in the Brawl meta) furthering my point that you have no idea what you're talking about.
You said they suck ass because people you knew never used them. That statement would have been fine (they suck if you don't put srs time into them, which casual players wouldn't) but you went on to include tournament play, which is untrue.
ice climbers didn't really have any unique features other than that they were 2 people, but it was more of an annoyance than a thing you really enjoyed
The two people dynamic is actually super interesting if you desync them.
http://gfycat.com/HighTartCoelacanthBasically you can get them to combo off of one another, sort of like Rosalina in SSB4. It can lead to some cool stuff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjectivity
Just because they're the best according to the tier list does not make them more fun to play/make the player better. Someone could be amazing at Jigglypuff or other characters at the bottom of the list, or suck at top-tier characters.
Also, let's look closer at Niff's quote, shall we?
Bolded the parts you clearly ignored. I havent =/= Nobody has.
He said:
No, they sucked ASS.
That is a DEFINITIVE statement. I was pointing out how he was using his limited experiences to make a definitive statement, one that applies to all cases, not "in his experience".
Anyway, we shouldn't spam this thread with arguments.