Author Topic: I 'came out' as an atheist.  (Read 25350 times)

Can't we just agree that religion has no effect over how big of an starfish you are and it's just a (secular) group you associate yourself with.

Honestly we shouldn't be trying to change OP's religion. That's like trying to MAKE someone be gay, or MAKE someone have a beastiality special interest. Those of you christians trying to turn him to faith (I'm looking at you, Ghoststar), is this what Christ would want? You claiming people are damned to an eternal punishment because they do not share the same views as you? That more than anything he should do it to please his mom, but also gain the benefit of living a "blessed" life? I got news for you. As someone who has been a part of 7 different 'religions' (or lack-there-of), there is no blessed. I didn't make more friends as a christian, I didn't save more money as a Buddhist, I didn't become a pusillanimous individual magnet just by being atheist.

Religion is a part of who we are. Perhaps it is not coded into our DNA, unlike loveual orientation and hair color, but it is still a critical part of our being. It doesn't matter what or who you believe in, in the end we all die the same death (relatively speaking). We shouldn't be TELLING people to be X religion instead of Y. We should be INVITING them to join us, and if they say no, then you back off.


Your mom sounds like a nutty, bible-thumping conservative, which I'm guessing she is. Yeah, you shouldn't give in to her beliefs, unless you want to.

Anyway, reminds me of this article: http://www.theonion.com/articles/gay-teen-worried-he-might-be-christian,2888/

My hope is that we all, regardless of belief, can learn to respect each other, and uplift each other.

The only thing that should be associated with any specific person is their ability to lead, create, and/or think; their ideas and personality; and their judgement. Race, love, nationality, ethnicity, creed, etc; are all repugnant ways to judge people.

Tolerance will uplift this world.

Can't we just agree that religion has no effect over how big of an starfish you are and it's just a (secular) group you associate yourself with.


like

what are you trying to even say

that religion is a secular group?
« Last Edit: July 08, 2014, 10:16:58 AM by Tonkka² »



like

what are you trying to even say

that religion is a secular group?

Religious people CAN be secular if they would stop letting their religion dictate their political lives, which happens like, never
« Last Edit: July 08, 2014, 10:20:07 AM by Biostorm »

Just some think food for the debate about old testament a few pages back

http://www.gotquestions.org/abolish-fulfill-law.html

I always saw Heaven and Earth passing as the establishment of a new covenant which had been promised since Genesis, and that everything being accomplished applied to Jesus's first time on Earth. Keep in mind that the prophecies of the Messiah count as Law since they are preached by the prophets.
« Last Edit: July 08, 2014, 10:27:31 AM by Dodger »

I think the biggest point for why the Old Testament isn't as relevant to christians, particularly the laws of Leviticus, is due to the transfiguration of christ.
Christ took on the form of Moses and Elijah, and took over their role, becoming the authority of christianity.

Throwing scripture all over the place won't solve anything, as many modern christians believe that scripture is very much to be taken metaphorically.
And much of the New Testament is just the personal views of varying Christian leaders, such as St Paul, who in his many letters dictates the way the church should be and discusses the teachings of Christ, yet he never met Christ, and became a self declared Apostle only after having a religious experience on the road to Damascus.

To many christians, particularly protestants (and particularly those who are not fundamentalists), the point of christianity is to live your life in a good way, making good choices, worshiping God and Jesus. It's not to read the Bible every single day and adhere to the exact written word of a 2000+ year old book that's been rewritten who knows how many times, and translated from Hebrew, Greek and Latin.

Oh god OP is 11 and has made his religious decision.

Oh god OP is 11 and has made his religious decision.
The young and foolish play into the hands of the devil, then seek mercy from false gods and prophets.

Religious people CAN be secular if they would stop letting their religion dictate their political lives, which happens like, never
secular doesn't mean "intelligent", it just means "out of religion"

He said that he can be religious and out of religion at the same time.

That's some wheelchair quantum physics.

I was raised in a Christian centered family. My mom was Baptist and I think my dad possibly was agnostic, but was christian by the time I was born. So yeah, I was raised in church and AWANA and stuff like that. ButiI'm an extremely science minded person and hope to make a career out of it. I've read theses from both religion-based and secular-based scientists. There is definitely crud clouding over both sides from my point of view, so I accept a little of both and also have some of my own views on how some things happened.

I still identify myself as a christian since I was baptized. But that doesn't make me a diehard shove-down-your-throat evangelist. I don't pray all the time, I don't worship all the time, I don't go to church all the time. I just take the idea that a God created the universe. Either way, the universe had to be created. Mass HAD to be created somewhere, and not out of something else because "something else" didn't exist yet. All depends on what makes the most sense, and that's what does to me.

even if you judge him?


srlsy I know what you mean. Judging people based on their religion is stupid.
Christians are going to be judged for the way they live their lives for as long as the world is still around. There's no use in wasting our words when most of the people in this thread are going to have the exact same view, or a worse view on Christians when this thread is locked. It seriously bothers me how if someone judges a homoloveual for anything on this entire forum they get attacked by over half the users. If you replace it with Christianity half the forums instantly judge them negatively and act like they're life choices are just a big joke. It's really sad, but it is going to stay that way no matter what anyone says.

Tolerance will uplift this world.
It could, but there is too much hypocrisy and hate in the world. For example some tells somebody not to judge people, then they turn around and give a fedora-tier rant about how dumb religion is.

this is why you don't make a religion thread on blf

this is why you don't make a religion thread on blf
People don't learn that religious topics cause stuffstorms here. Never.