Author Topic: Ferrari threatened "cease and desist" on Deadmau5 over "Purrari 458"  (Read 7773 times)

then i'd make my cars look serious. one guy tricking out his car to make it look like a joke would not impact this, at least significantly. most of the time people are going to see a ferrari go by (like blockzillahead) and say things like "that is a very serious car!" and "that car looks very well-designed!". then they see idiots modifying their ferraris and be like "wow. what a waste of perfectly good ferrari." the thing they're focusing on isn't the car having awful modifications, it's that a third party actually thought this was a good idea.

Most of this is generally pretty true when it's not an iconic individual with the Ferrari. Yeah people do stupid stuff with their cars and we laugh on it on Failblog. Deadmau5 does something stupid with his car and all of his fans think it's the funniest stuff in the world.

Recognize that customers aren't the only people that Ferrari has to sell their product to. There's other auto companies, stockholders, there's a very large hierarchy of business and the higher up we go the less they cater to funny parodies. They start asking the questions like, why is Ferrari letting iconic people make a parody of their work? When you make a joke out of a Ferrari product you, by extension, make a joke out of Ferrari.

a parody is not an infringed copyright. Purarri is a parody of Ferarri, it's not it's own company, it's not in any way related to any other company and looks different enough from the original car's logo to be defined as a parody of the original.

Parodies are funny and all but Deadmau5 wanted to cruise around in the joke like it was the most badass thing on planet Earth. Yeah I guess the pun is funny and all but, again, they have an image to maintain.

Yeah he bought the car. He owns the car. He doesn't own Ferrari. What if it was you? You make a fantastic, well performing sports car and you sell it to a popular music producer. So what does he do? He strips your name off the car and replaces it with an idiotic gimmick and then parades around saying "this is mine, i bought it"

What does that reflect on you?

i don't know about you but
isn't necessary in any civilized argument.
ok, well, yknow, forget me for assuming mister cheese doesn't need to be literally spoonfed obvious information
« Last Edit: August 31, 2014, 12:44:32 AM by Rally »

But what kind of image do they have now? An starfish company that wont let you modify the car you bought with your own money, to the point where they will take legal action against you?
I do think what deadmau5 did was pretty rude tawords ferrari,  but they went over board with legal action


also rally, it will take days of arguing for you to change the minds of one of the most stubborn communities on the internet. Just save yourself the pain of carpol tunnel.


« Last Edit: August 31, 2014, 01:01:10 AM by Starkiller »

A car company that produces top of the line automobiles that isn't going to take stuff from some punk EDM junkie who wanted to take a duke on their company name for a gimmick?

also rally, it will take days of arguing for you to change the minds of one of the most stubborn communities on the internet. Just save yourself the pain of carpol tunnel.

I'm not really aiming to change minds. Debate keeps your mind open and sharp. If someone comes in here with a well thought out completely correct point that invalidates everything I've said and proves I'm full of stuff, I'll gladly walk out of here with a new ideology about automobile business.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2014, 01:05:14 AM by Rally »

if you're going to debate, rally,

ok, well, yknow, forget me for assuming mister cheese doesn't need to be literally spoonfed obvious information
lay off the passive-aggressiveness please.

. Debate keeps your mind open and sharp. If someone comes in here with a well thought out completely correct point that invalidates everything I've said and proves I'm full of stuff, I'll gladly walk out of here with a new ideology about automobile business.
I agree, I love debate, I would probably join a debate club if I was beter at debating, but you dont really seam to be debating. More of an argument than a friendly debate

as power dog stated. A happy attitude on both sides make for a great debate. But that just doesnt seem like a very happy attitude

I respond to hostility with hostility. Simple as that.

EDIT: I like how you're going to tell me how to debate after I've completely destroyed all of your arguments through debating. Come up with something better.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2014, 07:20:19 AM by Rally »

I respond to hostility with hostility. Simple as that.
makes you as bad as the other person. If you respond with kindness and without sarcasm it makes you appear more intelegent and civil than the other person. It makes your side look more inviting and reasonable to the observers of the argument.

I can't believe the purrari is loving dead


Y'know, now that you mention pardoy. Parody is protected under parody law. That's how artists like weird al can do the things they do.

I do think what deadmau5 did was pretty rude tawords ferrari,  but they went over board with legal action
it's because ferarri doesn't sell cars, it sells it's name, they need to keep their brand intact in order to make money; if he bought the car from a less brand centered company like aston-martin, lambo, etc. he'd probably be fine

it's because ferarri doesn't sell cars, it sells it's name, they need to keep their brand intact in order to make money; if he bought the car from a less brand centered company like aston-martin, lambo, etc. he'd probably be fine
lamborghini wouldnt be fine with it either
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/07/18/lamborghini-sues-vegas-restaurant-and-exotic-car-dealer-for-trad/
they tried to take someone else to court for copying their design logo. which purrari did to ferrari.

I feel like trademark/copyright is not the issue here. When you sell supercars, the whole selling factor behind them is that they are powerful and driven by rich and famous people. Due to the marketing strategy of a supercar, it is very important to have your brand name on the car. Because any reasonable company recognizes the importance of their marketing strategy, I would imagine that there is a clause written into the sales contract that prohibits modification of the logos.

i've just realized how far people will go to trash some guy and a meme
and protect a meaningless logo and brand

i've just realized how far people will go to trash some guy and a meme
and protect a meaningless logo and brand
you take that back you dirty savage