Freedom of Speech infringement at my school?

[Ipquarx]

I said excluding legal rights.

Excluding legal rights, there are still tons of people that will discriminate against and ridicule you based on your loveual orientation. The school system is trying to stop more people like that from being produced, which is a very noble thing to do.

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[·::Kishgal::·]

If the straight kids can kiss publicly

...They can't, though? In most schools at any rate.

explain this, too

For one reason or another homoloveuals are frequently far more flamboyant that straight couples. This is generally just a natural consequence of them mostly being teenagers, attention whoring is natural for them and it usually goes away after a bit.
Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.

[General]

People who would mention they are homoloveual at the most uncalled for times and do it repeatedly.

Also keep making inappropriate comments about what they would do some other guys ass or other things

[IkeTheGeneric]

Also keep making inappropriate comments about what they would do some other guys ass or other things

welcome to highschool

[Foxscotch]

the most uncalled for times

too vague. specific examples pls

Also keep making inappropriate comments about what they would do some other guys ass or other things

not unlike the way straight guys talk about girls
neither one is any good... but it isn't a problem that you can reasonably have with gay people specifically. so it's irrelevant

[·::Kishgal::·]

not unlike the way straight guys talk about girls

I hear it far more from gay fellas than straight guys. Hell, friends and I have even talked about this before and they owned up to it happily.
A gay friend is accosting his guy friend, getting all touchy, they're just fooling around. A straight friend is accosting a girl friend, getting all touchy, oh he's thirsty, he's being so rude.

[General]

I'm talking to an excess though, not even a group discussion about love just an uncalled for comment like a show-off

[SetGaming]

Freedom of speech is there so the government can't arrest for you speaking about whatever you want. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech, this has everything to do with people being gigantic starfishs to people who have had to deal with a lot of crap. They deserved the suspension they got.

EDIT: To clarify, I meant the people who tore down the posters. Not the guy who liked the post.

First amendment says that there's freedom of speech, action, and religion. Not that I'm arguing with you - they deserved it - but it's less of a speech problem and more of vandalism.

[Col. Derontchi]

define this. tell me exactly what you mean by it. no vagueness

I mean exactly what I said. That's it. You're gay, so what? Why do you feel the need to let EVERYBODY know about it? Why do you feel the need for everyone to pay special attention to you simply because you are gay?

Excluding legal rights, there are still tons of people that will discriminate against and ridicule you based on your loveual orientation. The school system is trying to stop more people like that from being produced, which is a very noble thing to do.

BFD. I've met people who have condemned me for being straight and white (looking at you, fox), but I just shook it off. I did not feel the need to make my own white power club and harass others that believe differently or show any disrespect against my club. It is a noble thing to open people's minds, but that is not the school's place. The school cannot punish because of political opinions, as long as kept personally and peacefully. You cannot punish someone because they believe differently or even ACT against YOUR OWN beliefs.

[sir dooble]

I'm rather indifferent about the whole thing, so don't take it as me being die-hard on either side, but I really think you can't argue these sort of things anecdotally.

When you do it really comes down to you having a problem with a specific person, or types of characters, rather than an entire society or loveuality.

I personally haven't known many non-heteroloveual people who are in your face about who they're shagging, or what they want to do to other people, or are completely love focussed and vulgar. Although I see that sort of personality in the media a lot.

But I have seen a lot of heteroloveual people who are equally in your face about what they like. Just vulgar statements that aren't civil and don't need to be shared. As much as I don't want to hear about how you'd like a go at another bloke's bum, I don't want to hear about how many times you've eaten a girl out. It's just crass.


I have a problem with those sorts of people, who have no filter to what they say, and can't be civilised.
I think the mistake some people make is that they know a few lgbt+ people like that, and see things like lgbt+ posters and rainbow flags about, and think it's empowering more people to be as uncouth, or they just assume that all other lgbt+ people must be like it.

If you have a problem with a person for being flamboyant or too loveually explicit in what they say, then criticise them for that, not for the gender they're attracted to.

[Ipquarx]

BFD. I've met people who have condemned me for being straight and white (looking at you, fox), but I just shook it off. I did not feel the need to make my own white power club and harass others that believe differently or show any disrespect against my club. It is a noble thing to open people's minds, but that is not the school's place. The school cannot punish because of political opinions, as long as kept personally and peacefully. You cannot punish someone because they believe differently or even ACT against YOUR OWN beliefs.

Harassing others based on their loveual orientation is not a political belief, it is a personal belief, it is prejudice, in the same way that racism is not a political belief. If someone is harassing you for being a straight white male in school then I'm absolutely certain they would get the same treatment. Also, these people were not keeping their opinions to themselves, they were publicly vandalizing the school in an attempt to encourage prejudice based on loveual orientation.

[Foxscotch]

I'm talking to an excess though, not even a group discussion about love just an uncalled for comment like a show-off

what? that's not even remotely something that you could call a specific example

A gay friend is accosting his guy friend, getting all touchy, they're just fooling around. A straight friend is accosting a girl friend, getting all touchy, oh he's thirsty, he's being so rude.

this is the opposite of anything I've ever seen. if a guy, straight or not, just looks at another guy in the changing room it's gross, but it's perfectly normal for guys to actually say wildly inappropriate things to girls, stopping short of touching only because he'd get in trouble with the school

Why do you feel the need for everyone to pay special attention to you simply because you are gay?

this is what you need to explain. what are you talking about?

I've met people who have condemned me for being straight and white (looking at you, fox)

definitely gonna need some sources on that one

[·::Kishgal::·]

this is the opposite of anything I've ever seen. if a guy, straight or not, just looks at another guy in the changing room it's gross, but it's perfectly normal for guys to actually say wildly inappropriate things to girls, stopping short of touching only because he'd get in trouble with the school

Pay more attention in the future then, because I can speak to pretty much anyone I know and this will be backed up.

[Alternat¡ve]

this is the opposite of anything I've ever seen. if a guy, straight or not, just looks at another guy in the changing room it's gross, but it's perfectly normal for guys to actually say wildly inappropriate things to girls, stopping short of touching only because he'd get in trouble with the school

This is so forgettarded its hilarious

[ultimamax]

While your friend sounds like an starfish, I don't really see a basis for his suspension