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Was the punishment of my friend justified?

Yes, absolutely.
11 (12.2%)
Maybe, but not to that extent.
21 (23.3%)
He should not have been punished.
58 (64.4%)

Total Members Voted: 90

Author Topic: Freedom of Speech infringement at my school?  (Read 7714 times)

I can see why a punishment was given to the person who ripped the posters off (I am not questioning the proportionality of the punishment though, as that is a whole different issue). However, simply liking something online? I think that is simply ridiculous.

i aint holding my tongue for no cigarettes

Oooh hot topic here.

Personally and tossing my thoughts on loveual orientation for a sec, I think that all this special treatment for LGBT people is bs. Yeah, some people do "persecute" them, but these pity parties over loveual orientation are stupid and just plain weird. And I'm not slamming gays or anything here. If I dealt with same love attraction or believed myself to be female or whatever, I'd just feel awkward knowing the moment of silences or fundraisers were meant for my supposedly "delinquent" or "persecuted" or "minority" (insert other controversial describing adjectives here) group, when I just want to be a human.

On the topic of suspension, I guess it is somewhat justified for the kids who ripped down posters to poke fun at the event. But anyone who liked the post? No.

Sorry, I didn't realize you're omniscient. You've observed every single LGBT person on the planet right?
"One of the few valid generalizations"
As far as I'm conserved, no generalization is valid

I'm sure there are people whose entire identity revolves around their loveuality.  That is a consequence of being a self-absorbed person, not being gay.
I am not sure where you are getting that, but I have to observe EVERY SINGLE BLT person on the planet to make an opinion? I think you're finally starting to see what I'm trying to say. Many gay people DO allow their identity to revolve around their loveuality, and make starfishs of themselves in the process. You're getting it!

Yes, those are problems BLTs face, but many may be a result of their own actions. Not ALL, but some. Of course, there are problems unique to BLTs, but those come with EVERY sort of identification or situation possible. For instance, being straight comes with certain drawbacks. If someone notable says ANYTHING that can be remotely INTERPRETED as anti-gay, they can lose all credibility as whatever they were formerly seen as credible on, they can lose their CAREER, their REPUTATION, and will be absolutely torn apart by many liberals and activists. (Also, as far as I'm concerned, a Tumblr graphic is NOT a reliable source.)

I will assume for the time being that BLTs do have it worse, which may even have some truth to it. Even then, that does not give them any sort of superiority over anyone who is not.

Now, on to the Key and Peele video. I was not implying that they made any sort of "stereotype", but as you said, those who make their identities revolve around their loveuality. And, again, I'm not talking about the individual, I'm talking about the MINDSET. You, sir, may be the one misinterpreting.

You're making me hungry by saying BLT.

You're making me hungry by saying BLT.

I'll make the toast!

I am not sure where you are getting that, but I have to observe EVERY SINGLE BLT person on the planet to make an opinion? I think you're finally starting to see what I'm trying to say. Many gay people DO allow their identity to revolve around their loveuality, and make starfishs of themselves in the process. You're getting it!

Yes, those are problems BLTs face, but many may be a result of their own actions. Not ALL, but some. Of course, there are problems unique to BLTs, but those come with EVERY sort of identification or situation possible. For instance, being straight comes with certain drawbacks. If someone notable says ANYTHING that can be remotely INTERPRETED as anti-gay, they can lose all credibility as whatever they were formerly seen as credible on, they can lose their CAREER, their REPUTATION, and will be absolutely torn apart by many liberals and activists. (Also, as far as I'm concerned, a Tumblr graphic is NOT a reliable source.)
lmao you misunderstand and misinterpret literally everything. When you say "many" you make it sound like it's some overwhelming majority. It's not. It's a small group of starfishs that no sane individual wants to be around. Then you go on to say that it's the sane persons fault they're discriminated against because some other jackass that they have no relation to is an asshat. And no, being straight has no drawbacks except a very small minority of radical femenists that might discriminate against you for being a straight white male. LGBT people are just as human as any other person, discrimination is widely frowned down upon, because it's a loving richardhead thing to do. You're telling me it's a bad thing that people who think gay people don't deserve equal rights get their careers ruined?

LGBT's do have it tougher, and the graphic he provided included sources, and the other statistics are easily corroboratable by a simple google search. This is further proof that you don't actually pay attention to the arguments being made.

I'm pretty sure you signed a code of conduct at the beginning of the year. I'm 100% positive it includes something about social media in it. So try not to be stupid and you won't have these problems

I am not sure where you are getting that, but I have to observe EVERY SINGLE BLT person on the planet to make an opinion? I think you're finally starting to see what I'm trying to say. Many gay people DO allow their identity to revolve around their loveuality, and make starfishs of themselves in the process. You're getting it!
I'm saying considering you've likely met no more than 10 or 20 gay people, all of whom are under 15 it sounds like, you are not liable to make any sort of generalization with the knowledge you possess. I'm saying you're using the stuffty behavior of a few to justify your uneasiness with LGBT people.

Yes, those are problems BLTs face, but many may be a result of their own actions. Not ALL, but some. Of course, there are problems unique to BLTs, but those come with EVERY sort of identification or situation possible. For instance, being straight comes with certain drawbacks. If someone notable says ANYTHING that can be remotely INTERPRETED as anti-gay, they can lose all credibility as whatever they were formerly seen as credible on, they can lose their CAREER, their REPUTATION, and will be absolutely torn apart by many liberals and activists.
You'd be fired because your company doesn't want you representing them. Your reputation would be hurt maybe because people realize if someone can't control their loveuality, there is no basis to treating them unfairly for it.

(Also, as far as I'm concerned, a Tumblr graphic is NOT a reliable source.)
Every source I linked had citations. The graphics I linked had citations at the bottom. Point out the one you mean.

I will assume for the time being that BLTs do have it worse, which may even have some truth to it. Even then, that does not give them any sort of superiority over anyone who is not. No one is saying that.

Now, on to the Key and Peele video. I was not implying that they made any sort of "stereotype", but as you said, those who make their identities revolve around their loveuality. And, again, I'm not talking about the individual, I'm talking about the MINDSET. You, sir, may be the one misinterpreting.
You literally said, verbatim, "I know that not every single BLT person is one of those I am describing, but a decent number seem to be, perhaps even without realizing it." Your entire argument hinges on a stereotype. Why did you cite the video if it doesn't support your position?
BTW good job not acknowledging any of my legitimately sourced statistics.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2015, 10:30:11 PM by ultimamax »

And I'm not slamming gays or anything here.
*slams gays* im not slamming gays

*slams gays* im not slamming gays
I'm not seeing the "slamming."

*slams gays* im not slamming gays
He's saying they don't deserve special treatment, but equal treatment
I think that's quite reasonable

I do think that he misunderstands what the LGBT groups are about tho. I've never been to one though and neither has he, so I don't think any of us can say for sure

*slams gays* im not slamming gays
not in the way you'd expect ;))


He's saying they don't deserve special treatment, but equal treatment
I think that's quite reasonable

I do think that he misunderstands what the LGBT groups are about tho. I've never been to one though and neither has he, so I don't think any of us can say for sure

I'll be honest, I don't think that it is correct to say that they are given "special treatment". If anything, they're treated differently than other people (I don't know if it's in a positive way), and in most parts of the world, gay people cannot express themselves freely. If anything, it sounds like discrimination to me. This doesn't have much to do with this, but one thing that I find annoying about some LGBT groups is how they act too flamboyant.