"(Racially) segregated classrooms improve learning" - Anita Sarkeesian

[Camel]

electrk, you are making some good points, but i just feel that if you start keeping people apart at a young age, when you throw them back into the mix as an adult way more problems would occur.

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[Foxscotch]

yeah because he'd probably be labeled a child enthusiast

I'm sure you'd love to think so, but the truth is no he wouldn't

[Kimon²]

i feel like all the stupid bullstuff anita has done over the course of her internet notoriety hasnt been intentional, she just lacks the ability to think anything through, and a couple of things have happened as a consequence

1. said and done really awful things and refused to acknowledge they happened, let alone apologize for them, making her seem like a piece of stuff
2. not fulfilled any kickstarter promises and has deflected and distracted as much as she possibly can to avoid taking responsibility for that. im sure she didnt mean for it to start out as some ruse but she knows exactly what she's doing now, and it's really degenerate level behavior.
3. got involved in a huge controversy and continues to use that to frame herself as a victim.

[Maxwell.]

separating genders from each other is the stupidest stuff

[Nonnel]

an actual idiot

[otto-san]

yeah anita is definitely an interesting individual by some definition of the word

maybe it's just that, and this is a crazy idea, humans are a loveually dimorphic species and the lovees have general leanings towards certain things
there have been studies that show that male newborns look at mechanical devices longer and female newborns look at faces longer
men and women think and learn differently
Humans are a loveually dimorphic species, which is loving obvious and has been proven time and time again. We think differently, we act differently, we learn differently, we like different things...

if it ever appeared that i was making a claim that humans are near-100% nurture and insignificantly nature oops because that's silly and obviously not, but nurture is definitely a major factor to consider. there are a lot of things that are purely cultural. gendered objects or symbols and the sort (not claiming that gendered objects and symbols are the only factors involved in this, it's an entire process and many parts of a person's experiences contribute). boys being given trucks, girls being given dolls, this kind of thing isn't a result of natural inclination, it's just part of gender socialisation. not saying it's a "bad" thing, but it's a thing and it's how people learn what it means to be male or female in the context of their culture. obv males and females are biologically different in many ways, but it's not really fair to people as people to try and cause a kind of arbitrary divide when humans are so amazingly capable of aspiring for a kind of complex self-actualisation that other animals don't get to experience or strive for oh man words on the internet

Why haven't we seen a significant increase in female entrepreneurs then? Why haven't we seen a massive influx of male teachers?

i wouldn't really suspect any kind of massively significant, quick trend or anything, but i would probably guess that the numbers have been rising.

yeah because he'd probably be labeled a child enthusiast

which is the problem i was talking about because that's ridiculous

well that sucks that you "feel" that way
research doesn't matter when you have your feels

i wasn't really meaning to say that. i was conceding ignorance, not superiority to ignorance

[-Setro-]

its reasons like these why i decided to delete my twitter

[Foxscotch]

im a big baby

good to know

separating genders from each other is the stupidest stuff

I'm going to take a guess and say you're against the idea of getting rid of the separation of "male" and "female" bathrooms

[ultimamax]

feminism is an idea, it's not centralized. you can't have a "true feminist"
feminism can mean different things to different people. to me it means equality between lovees
it'd be nice if there was some label that made a distinction
i guess radfem is that

my main problem with egalitarianism is that it seems prone to be very passive
like feminists or race activists or LGBT activists are usually not tribal/loveist/homophobic because they recognize the parallels. that being said, they focus on a particular label like feminist or LGBT or whatever because it's what they are interested in advancing. by maintaining this kind of narrow focus they are more active. they passively support all kinds of movements but actively support a few.

egalitarian is very broad. it's very easy to say "i'm an egalitarian" but it doesn't come bundled with any form of activism, because if you think about it most people in the western world are egalitarian, and a very small percent of people are actually activist

i hope this makes sense

[Maxwell.]

I'm going to take a guess and say you're against the idea of getting rid of the separation of "male" and "female" bathrooms

no don't be stupid

[-Setro-]

good to know

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what?

[Doughboy]

I'm going to take a guess and say you're against the idea of getting rid of the separation of "male" and "female" bathrooms

that isnt what he said at all?

[Electrk.]

electrk, you are making some good points, but i just feel that if you start keeping people apart at a young age, when you throw them back into the mix as an adult way more problems would occur.

I'm not saying separate them completely. Teach them separately, but they all take lunch/recess/break/whatever together.

Also, otto, I'm at work right now so I can't do a full response yet (I will though), but I will say that I do agree there are social stigmas and I do agree that nurture plays a role, but there are areas where I disagree where and how much.

[TheKhoz]

but we wouldn't need segregation if only one race/gender existed.

There was a fairly odd parents episode about that

[Electrk.]

There was a fairly odd parents episode about that