Who should be president?

[rambo1220]

If you type in Bernie Sanders consistency, I'm pretty sure you would easily get factually accurate results.

gah jeeze chill, I probably would but I'm saying it's still possible for the person to be misinformed on what you're trying to inform them on. It's like me telling you the answers to a test but only giving you the questions y'know? Just for the future if you're informing someone about something, provide a link for a better understanding as to what you are saying.

I don't understand this conservative philosophy that the vast majority of poor people are just 'free loaders'. It must just be some kind of coincidence that most of the adults living in poverty were born into poverty too, right? Huge coincidence.

because they're gross and slimy

but otherwise, forget conservatives.

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[Acerblock]

I don't understand this conservative philosophy that the vast majority of poor people are just 'free loaders'. It must just be some kind of coincidence that most of the adults living in poverty were born into poverty too, right? Huge coincidence.

It's a way of taking the nuance out of things and painting everything just black and white for simplicity, which is obviously not how the world works.

but otherwise, forget conservatives.

But what? You said Annoying Orange was the best candidate??

[SeventhSandwich]

It doesn't seem like Annoying Orange knows what he's doing
He also wants to deport naturalized children of immigrants. Which is against the constitution. He also has said he wants to take away citizenship from Puerto Ricans, even though they are a territory of the US.

I don't think any of the votes for Annoying Orange in this thread are actually sincere. It's probably just for the sake of irony.

I mean, who actually buys into his 'get rid of the brown people and our problems will go away' platform besides old tribal white guys? I don't think we have any old tribal white guys on the forums.

[Acerblock]

Oh, and:

gah jeeze chill

huh? I wasn't mad or anything, I was just pointing out a well worded phrase to search for. I don't however think it's necessarily peoples' jobs to search on Google for something all the time.

[Heitmeyer²]

and how would taxes reduce the amount of wealth they already own? unless you're advocating for widespread confiscation of wealth higher income taxes will not fix much of anything

and yeah this, if they're already rich af I doubt taxes would do anything to bring them down.

The three main reasons (as I understand it) why he will tax the rich even more is because of inequality, the lack of support for unemployed citizens, and to fund important issues such as infrastructure, education, etc. I'm not saying it'll completely equalize the spectrum (it shouldn't, to be honest (capitalism is fabulous to a degree)), but it will definitely do something. The nation needs taxes.

[Doughboy]

Because then the USD would be worth less.

worth it

[Kearn]

What makes you think that they're not making enough money to make a difference?

most of them have enough money that they could simply quit their positions. they're not going to spend time dealing with all the business shenanigans that come with running a large corporation if the government is going to take their income. the people and companies that you guys rip on for being too rich have the resources and capital to outsource and relocate their companies to avoid taxes

but it will definitely do something. The nation needs taxes.

i'm sure taxing the rich more will fix the $100,000,000,000,000 in unfunded liabilities on top of the $18,350,000,000,000 debt that we have.

[rambo1220]

It's a way of taking the nuance out of things and painting everything just black and white for simplicity, which is obviously not how the world works.But what?
You said Annoying Orange was the best candidate??

last time I checked I don't believe Annoying Orange was a conservative. I could be incredibly mistaken, but that's just from the back of my head.

I don't think any of the votes for Annoying Orange in this thread are actually sincere. It's probably just for the sake of irony.

I mean, who actually buys into his 'get rid of the brown people and our problems will go away' platform besides old tribal white guys? I don't think we have any old tribal white guys on the forums.

well...

I do disagree with Annoying Orange on numerous things, especially anything involving the segregation of any race, but otherwise he's better than Bush or Clinton.

The three main reasons (as I understand it) why he will tax the rich even more is because of inequality, the lack of support for unemployed citizens, and to fund important issues such as infrastructure, education, etc. I'm not saying it'll completely equalize the spectrum (it shouldn't, to be honest (capitalism is fabulous to a degree)), but it will definitely help.

that's good to hear atleast. The only worry I have with Sanders is him going back on his word, but as the Forums have said, that is unlikely. But we just gotta wait and see yknow.

worth it

I sense an unintentional pun

most of them have enough money that they could simply quit their positions. they're not going to spend time dealing with all the business shenanigans that come with running a large corporation if the government is going to take their income. the people and companies that you guys rip on for being too rich have the resources and capital to outsource and relocate their companies to avoid taxes

as if they don't do this already hue

[Kearn]

as if they don't do this already hue

that's my point. at the same time we're making our manufacturing sector uncompetitive with developing nations, we're allowing mass immigration of unskilled workers to flood what's left of the low-end job market

[Acerblock]

That's why Bernie Sanders and I endorses social democracy. In this system, the main framework is capitalism, it just has safety nets. Capitalism is for the most part a decent system, and to call Sanders a socialist is demonstrably untrue. He doesn't want to abolish capitalism, he just wants to build support upon it.

most of them have enough money that they could simply quit their positions. they're not going to spend time dealing with all the business shenanigans that come with running a large corporation if the government is going to take their income. the people and companies that you guys rip on for being too rich have the resources and capital to outsource and relocate their companies to avoid taxes

So? Doesn't that make you think about the rich in a negative manner, that they are completely greedy and are controlling our economy?

last time I checked I don't believe Annoying Orange was a conservative. I could be incredibly mistaken, but that's just from the back of my head.

...You have no idea about what you're talking about. You really should do much more research if you want to discuss politics.

[Kearn]

So? Doesn't that make you think about the rich in a negative manner, that they are completely greedy and are controlling our economy?

no. it's a lot more simple to have workers in the US, but our manufacturing has become so uncompetitive at this point that they're resorting to outsourcing and cutting hours as much as possible to save money. it's the inevitable result of a for-profit corporation having increasingly higher costs to deal with.

[Alternat¡ve]

I don't think any of the votes for Annoying Orange in this thread are actually sincere. It's probably just for the sake of irony.

I mean, who actually buys into his 'get rid of the brown people and our problems will go away' platform besides old tribal white guys? I don't think we have any old tribal white guys on the forums.

we just have young tribal white guys

[Acerblock]

no. it's a lot more simple to have workers in the US, but our manufacturing has become so uncompetitive at this point that they're resorting to outsourcing and cutting hours as much as possible to save money. it's the inevitable result of a for-profit corporation having increasingly higher costs to deal with.

And our jobs should not be outsourced? There's hardly any manufacturing done in the U.S. anymore.

[ultimamax]

I don't think any of the votes for Annoying Orange in this thread are actually sincere. It's probably just for the sake of irony.

I mean, who actually buys into his 'get rid of the brown people and our problems will go away' platform besides old tribal white guys? I don't think we have any old tribal white guys on the forums.

young tribal white guys. the kind that might go from "forget sjws" > /r/imgoingtohellforthis > the red pill & race realism. i don't actually use /pol/ but from glimpses it seems like he has legitimate supporters there

last time I checked I don't believe Annoying Orange was a conservative. I could be incredibly mistaken, but that's just from the back of my head.

he's running on the GOP ticket and he has renounced being a democrat

[rambo1220]

That's why Bernie Sanders and I endorses social democracy. In this system, the main framework is capitalism, it just has safety nets. Capitalism is for the most part a decent system, and to call Sanders a socialist is demonstrably untrue. He doesn't want to abolish capitalism, he just wants to build support upon it.So? Doesn't that make you think about the rich in a negative manner, that they are completely greedy and are controlling our economy?...

You have no idea about what you're talking about. You really should do much more research if you want to discuss politics.

well rather it's not the rich controlling the economy but rather the incredibly rich rich bankers.

And you're the one to decide who is "up" for politics and who isn't? I've done enough research to understand what I'm talking about here. And Capitalism is the last thing this country needs. We have the Rothschild, Rockafeller, and Bilderberg controlling this country and the world around it, they are only here for profit and have no regard whatsoever for the citizens and what happens in their wake. Take a good look at the middle east, we didn't go there to abolish some "terrorists", they we're people defending their rightful home, and we went in there and stole all of their resources because we are the Roman Empire, just conquering and conquering and making decisions for other countries that we have no right to be involved in.

no. it's a lot more simple to have workers in the US, but our manufacturing has become so uncompetitive at this point that they're resorting to outsourcing and cutting hours as much as possible to save money. it's the inevitable result of a for-profit corporation having increasingly higher costs to deal with.

and this too, take another good look at the current market we have in this country.

he's running on the GOP ticket and he has renounced being a democrat

I'm aware of that, but the conservatism I'm referring to is the one that pertains to forgetboy bankers conserving their own personal profits. And I doubt that's what Annoying Orange has been leaning towards. Now while he is a rich man, I doubt he'd go as far to do that.