Author Topic: This is why I kept my views on feminism away from my family.  (Read 29994 times)

I'm against feminism therefore you need more feminism. Key characteristic of a cult. Please keep all abortion-related topics in PM as I've been asking.

I'm throwing in the towel for the most part. If I don't get back to you tonight, I will tomorrow.
No, it's because you are against abortion that feminism has a reason to exist. Get professional help.

No because I am physically unable. Stupid question. So what makes a human a human by your standards?
obtaining consciousness obviously

No, it's because you are against abortion that feminism has a reason to exist. Get professional help.
Because I see the value in each human's life and respect its basic sets of rights? Okay. You win. Discussion over.

obtaining consciousness obviously
yeah that's the part he's avoiding lol

To clarify why you're going to need to attack specific ideas:
Let's say person X (A third wave feminist) says that Y is right.
And let's say that person Y (Also a third wave feminist) says that Y is wrong.
And finally let's say that person Z (Also a third wave feminist) has no opinion.

Can they all be wrong at the same time? No. That's the problem with what you're trying to do. You need to narrow down the scope of what you're attacking from the collective beliefs of all third wave feminists to something more fundamental and arguable, like (just as an example, not taking a side) "Womens testimony should never be given priority over a mans testimony in a rape case"

There's rape culture, culture appropriation, political correctness, equal pay, radical, equity, empowerment, gender, the list goes on.
First four I understand, but what is "radical, equity, empowerment, gender?"

yeah that's the part he's avoiding lol
I disagree. If I got knocked out, I'm unconscious for a time. Am I not a human? Being of the human species makes you a human, no matter what stage of life.

I disagree. If I got knocked out, I'm unconscious for a time. Am I not a human? Being of the human species makes you a human, no matter what stage of life.
You're just loving stupid! You do not understand the concept of consciousness or (perhaps this is a better word) sentinence. Go to loving school. That's what you need.

I disagree. If I got knocked out, I'm unconscious for a time. Am I not a human? Being of the human species makes you a human, no matter what stage of life.
That's a dumb brown townogy.

You're just loving stupid! You do not understand the concept of consciousness or (perhaps this is a better word) sentinence. Go to loving school. That's what you need.
Being of the human species makes you a human. As I've asked several times now, please keep all abortion-related things to PM only and allow me to stay on track.
To clarify why you're going to need to attack specific ideas:
Let's say person X (A third wave feminist) says that Y is right.
And let's say that person Y (Also a third wave feminist) says that Y is wrong.
And finally let's say that person Z (Also a third wave feminist) has no opinion.

Can they all be wrong at the same time? No. That's the problem with what you're trying to do. You need to narrow down the scope of what you're attacking from the collective beliefs of all third wave feminists to something more fundamental and arguable, like (just as an example, not taking a side) "Womens testimony should never be given priority over a mans testimony in a rape case"
First four I understand, but what is "radical, equity, empowerment, gender?"
I think I kinda understand. Please forgive me, I'm a little bit stressed. Are you asking me to refute specific points of feminism?

I disagree. If I got knocked out, I'm unconscious for a time. Am I not a human? Being of the human species makes you a human, no matter what stage of life.
thus "obtaining" consciousness
you can go unconscious, but as long as you've been conscious before, you're human.

Are you asking me to refute specific points of feminism?
Exactly, yes. What fundamental part of your understanding of "third wave feminism" are you against? Because so far everyone just thinks you're against people believing in equality, and I get the feeling that's not the whole story.

Being of the human species makes you a human. As I've asked several times now, please keep all abortion-related things to PM only and allow me to stay on track.
Abortion is a central aspect of feminism. If you're going to have a discussion on feminism then abortion is fair game.

I disagree. If I got knocked out, I'm unconscious for a time. Am I not a human? Being of the human species makes you a human, no matter what stage of life.
you have the ability to regain consciousness. It's a completely different context and you're a fool for trying to compare them.

As I've asked several times now, please keep all abortion-related things to PM only and allow me to stay on track.
A woman being able to control their own body is a pretty central part of feminism lol

Abortion is a central aspect of feminism. If you're going to have a discussion on feminism then abortion is fair game.
I said all abortion-related things because you cannot argue that without arguing the morality of it.
Exactly, yes. What fundamental part of your understanding of "third wave feminism" are you against? Because so far everyone just thinks you're against people believing in equality, and I get the feeling that's not the whole story.
Well, I've been trying to explain how feminism is not about equality, but that's been covered up by the neverending posts. I don't even know what to start with. Anything particular you had in mind?

problem is you seem to be focusing exclusively on radical feminists and somehow applying your conclusions from them to the whole feminist spectrum