Paris Massacre: 4+ shootings, 3+ kamikaze, 1 hostage taking: Atleast 129 dead

[Red Spy]

I don't think terrorists shooting at people, and then some random people shooting at the terrorists is a good idea. Just think about it.

The terrorists start shooting the place up
Chaos ensues
People are running around like chickens


That's not a good situation to introduce more shooting.  

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[ShadowsfeaR]

Pretty sure a magnum is the ammunition not the gun. But i know what you mean. yeah what is a "civilian" weapon. I'm pretty sure that doesn't exist and its just called a gun.

The only gun I'd consider "civilian" is any rifle that has a Class 3 specification that has been removed of its full auto capability. Like an AR-15.

[Planr]

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Hey look it's Han Solo's blaster!

[Lord Tony®]

I'm able to hit a target with a handgun longer than 50+ feet. The average person can't even hit at that range.

[shitlord]

I don't think terrorists shooting at people, and then some random people shooting at the terrorists is a good idea. Just think about it.

The terrorists start shooting the place up
Chaos ensues
People are running around like chickens


That's not a good situation to introduce more shooting.  

you would be theoretically introducing more shooting by not shooting at the terrorists

[Tayasaurus]

The only gun I'd consider "civilian" is any rifle that has a Class 3 specification that has been removed of its full auto capability. Like an AR-15.

Semi Automatic and Fully Automatic

Lets be real here, fully automatic weapons are prone to wasting way to much ammo. Suppressing fire is what its good for primarily.

[Badger]

yeah what is a "civilian" weapon. I'm pretty sure that doesn't exist and its just called a gun.

Civilian would really only be a classification for rifles or weapons that are traditionally automatic but have been made locked to semi

I guess shadow beat me to it

Handguns I'd just guess it's relating to the ammunition (even though were still speaking about firearms)

[Lord Tony®]

Civilian would really only be a classification for rifles or weapons that are traditionally automatic but have been made locked to semi

I guess shadow beat me to it

Handguns I'd just guess it's relating to the ammunition (even though were still speaking about firearms)

You can shoot almost as fast as someone with a fully automatic with a semi if your finger is fast enough.

[Tayasaurus]

Hair trigger mods and bumpfire stocks. Really there's not much difference. Though bumpfire wastes even MORE ammo since its hard to control.

[Harm94]

its not smart to engage terrorists using automatic weapons with civilian arms
keep your head down and stay in a defensive position

semi > auto

The only gun I'd consider "civilian" is any rifle that has a Class 3 specification that has been removed of its full auto capability. Like an AR-15.

Full auto has always been a gimmick on small arms. No one trains to use it because its a waste of ammo since you have factors like barrel climb and recoil. Semi will always been king.

[Badger]

that's arguable depending on the weapon but yes

[Lego lad]

gun megathread

[ShadowsfeaR]

gun megathread

Well, guns did have a large part of this event.

[Lego lad]

yeah i guess you're right

[Rally]

You don't seem to be understanding what I'm saying. The extremist groups are creating the anti-muslim sentiment in the west on purpose. As you said, they are recruiting from the muslim population. Specifically, they recruit marginalised youth. Having a large portion of the population feel that muslims as a group can not be trusted, alienates them. As soon as people do not feel they belong in their community, they will turn to other groups. By encouraging people to not trust or accept muslims in general, they are actively working to radicalise youth. I'm not sure I understand how you can blame islam for the west marginalising innocent people based on the actions of extremist groups which they share nothing with.

Okay to be truthful you're right, I don't understand what you're saying. Are you saying that CIA is purposely going out of their way to make people hate them by murdering people, and that by hating them you're playing into their hands, to serve their purpose which is recruiting young muslims?