The world needs more guns

[DemitiriV2]

japan has had a sarin gas attack, stabbing sprees, yet they have some of the strictest gun control laws. But that's besides the fact that their culture does not have guns, and their culture is insular and very family-oriented (family dishonoring, etc), meaning crime is VERY low and if there is crime, it's swept under the rug due to police corruption

I too support guns

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[Mikoyan]

I don't even know if arguing morals is the correct decision with OP. Any scumbag that special interestizes over having love with children doesn't deserve to be in society anyways.

[DemitiriV2]

I don't even know if arguing morals is the correct decision with OP. Any scumbag that special interestizes over having love with children doesn't deserve to be in society anyways.

Where the forget did this come from?

[shitlord]

Where the forget did this come from?

clone makes jokes because he likes loli and mikoyan is trying to fire a cheap shot
i used to do the same stuff 

[Drydess]

I have no problem whatsoever with guns, although mainly for personal reasons, and having good aim is something I take pride in. Although, banning things not only doesn't affect the amount of illegal stunts like school shootings, it would probably increase it. Take a look at the pot in Colorado. Sure as soon as it was legalized, there were tons of people all thrilled because they could actually get pot legally, but soon it'll have even less pot usage than the states that haven't legalized it.
Not saying that anarchy is a solution, because it isn't, but in most minor cases this works

[ABlockOfCheese]

I have no problem whatsoever with guns, although mainly for personal reasons, and having good aim is something I take pride in. Although, banning things not only doesn't affect the amount of illegal stunts like school shootings, it would probably increase it. Take a look at the pot in Colorado. Sure as soon as it was legalized, there were tons of people all thrilled because they could actually get pot legally, but soon it'll have even less pot usage than the states that haven't legalized it.
Not saying that anarchy is a solution, because it isn't, but in most minor cases this works

if op is making this thread in wake of the san bernadino shooting, I would just like to point out that california has extremely strict gun regulations which apparently didn't prevent the shooting very well.

[Clone v.117]

I have no problem whatsoever with guns, although mainly for personal reasons, and having good aim is something I take pride in. Although, banning things not only doesn't affect the amount of illegal stunts like school shootings, it would probably increase it. Take a look at the pot in Colorado. Sure as soon as it was legalized, there were tons of people all thrilled because they could actually get pot legally, but soon it'll have even less pot usage than the states that haven't legalized it.
Not saying that anarchy is a solution, because it isn't, but in most minor cases this works

I don't understand why drugs keep being used as a comparison to guns, sure they are both illegal and can be smuggled but that's all they have in common.
The fact of the matter is that getting rid of guns would mean less shootings, we know this because other countries have outlawed guns after a time of complacency and after the law passed had undeniably drastic drops in shootings and homicides
Saying it wont make a difference is illogical, it would make a massive difference just as it has in the past.
Less guns = less shooting

[DemitiriV2]

I don't understand why drugs keep being used as a comparison to guns, sure they are both illegal and can be smuggled but that's all they have in common.
The fact of the matter is that getting rid of guns would mean less shootings, we know this because other countries have outlawed guns after a time of complacency and after the law passed had undeniably drastic drops in shootings and homicides
Saying it wont make a difference is illogical, it would make a massive difference just as it has in the past.
Less guns = less shooting

The fact of the matter is that getting rid of guns would mean less shootings

Less guns = less shooting

you seem to be ignoring that california has banned "assault weapons", laws against "high-capacity magazines", bullet buttons

[Clone v.117]

you seem to be ignoring that california has banned "assault weapons", laws against "high-capacity magazines", bullet buttons

Although there wasn't really any way to tell my original intent of this thread was focused on the amount of shootings not this shooting specifically.
Regular citizens can still purchase firearms in California, but that's a good start, now maybe if the rest of the country could adapt to more strict regimes.

if op is making this thread in wake of the san bernadino shooting, I would just like to point out that california has extremely strict gun regulations which apparently didn't prevent the shooting very well.

I'm sure you can find links to the other 344 mass shootings that took place this year.
Gun laws may be stricter in cali than other states but that doesn't change the fact that it is still easy to obtain firearms and that people are being mowed down by said firearms nationwide on a daily basis.

[Alyx Vance]

You can stop shootings but that won't stop people from finding an alternative. And then once they have that what do you have to stop them with?

[DemitiriV2]

Regular citizens can still purchase firearms in California, but that's a good start, now maybe if the rest of the country could adapt to more strict regimes.

now maybe if the rest of the country could adapt to more strict regimes.

forget off, statist

[Mr.Noßody]

Isn't it funny that most shooting occur in gun free zones?
Man, its like people go for easy targets or something. Weird...

No amount on either side of this debate will fix anything. The issue is with how people are taught to think.

[sir dooble]

I don't see how you can claim that the Paris Attacks are evidence that gun control doesn't work.
Yes, 130 people died, and several hundred were injured, by men with guns.

But that is the biggest mass-killing in France since WW2, and the biggest in Europe since a train bombing in 2004.
In regards to other shootings, consider that the list of French "Rampage" killings (4 or more), counts 89 dead, since 1875, in only 11 incidents.
In regards to school shootings, I could only find one, where 3 people were killed.
In regards to workplace shootings, there are 2 in France, one in 1913 and one in 1992, killing seven each.

Meanwhile in America, there have been 1,260 killed in mass shootings, and 3,600 injured, just between January 1st 2013, and October 1st 2015.
These aren't terrorist attacks. They're not highly planned attacks by groups of gunmen. These are typically one person with a gun, without a significant plan, besides to shoot people.
And as far as Drugs go, they're very very different to guns.

Both drugs and guns are illegal in the UK, but I know who to ask to get drugs.
I wouldn't know where to begin to get guns.

Drugs are so highly smuggled despite being illegal, because they have a personal use.
People buy drugs to use on themselves, without the intent to harm others.

The only reason people buy illegal guns is in order to kill other people. Most people don't want to kill other people. Hence gun crime is low, even though guns are banned in the UK.
When people use guns in the US, for the most part, it's a crime of passion, or mental illness is possibly involved. These people are desperate, and they use what they have at hand.
For them, guns are at hand, so they use them.

In the UK, knives are at hand, so they use them.
But you can't kill 30 people in a school with a knife, so it's a much better situation than having guns so readily available.


If you restrict access to guns, then you prevent the common person from shooting up a school with their parents gun.
Criminals can still gain access to guns, yes. But criminals use guns in a completely different way. There is no benefit to shooting up a school, or a hospital, so why would your career criminals, or even your money-desperate robbers, do so?

[Pastrey Crust]

Weaponry laws here make it very dangerous to own a gun. If a gunshot is heard, came crom your home, or someone was killed with it, whoever is registered with that weapon is immediately dettained. Gun licenses are also ridiculously hard to get as RENAR gives you a very hard time. Illegal ownership of weapons gives you a minimum of five years of jail if you're caught. The only shootings here are caused by drugdealing bands and we have a special police to deal with it. We've never had mass shootings like the US has daily.

[SuperFlaminninja³]

Most of the people saying we need to ban guns arent even from the U.S, Even though guns are the "Cause" of all the Massacres', Imagine how many lifes they have saved, When rapists with knives break into some ones house, and all the pusillanimous individuals doing this are attacking gun free zones. And all who said that the founding fathers had no idea what would come of free guns,
My question is why are we saying "Ban the guns", yet shipping refugees' out of a country CIA is based out of? The crazy stuff is, none of the pictures show familys coming into america, it is men in their 30's the prime age to fight.