Why do grades matter/Education argument thread

[Darryl McKoy]

My experience (in Australia at least) is that they really don't matter in the long term (unless you're trying to go to uni obviously). Having good grades might make your first job easier to get, but beyond that it's definitely not required to have good grades unless you're doing something heavily technical.

I've only ever really applied for one job, which was as a trainee in finance (my first real job). From there I've had 5 different jobs now and I've moved up purely through networking. Knowing and impressing the right people (plus experience) will always Annoying Orange having good grades, or even having a degree (to a point).

With that said, if you can't self educate I think you'll have trouble either way. The people I've met who aren't active 'self-improvers' are the ones who sit in the same role for 5-10 years before they're even eligible to move up.

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[Clownfish]

With that said, if you can't self educate I think you'll have trouble either way. The people I've met who aren't active 'self-improvers' are the ones who sit in the same role for 5-10 years before they're even eligible to move up.

I was one of those students who was told they were the loving greatest stuff since sliced bread and with this I never studied at all until freshman year where I got a forgetton of harder classes dumped on my head like a cement block

Self improvement is something to work on anyway. Or improve hahahaa
I'm a lot better at it than I used to be but I still suck

Fun Fact: I got booted from the gifted program
I am the only student in the entire history of my school district to get booted from a gifted program

[Darryl McKoy]

That doesn't strike me as funny nor something to gloat about. If you're happy to be a loser, you'll no doubt be one of the people

who sit in the same role for 5-10 years before they're even eligible to move up.

[Clownfish]

That doesn't strike me as funny nor something to gloat about. If you're happy to be a loser, you'll no doubt be one of the people

I find it funny now, mostly because I have a lot of friends who were in the program and thought I was also in it.
At the time I was pretty angry about it for a good while.
you don't have to be so rude

[Scout31]

Fun Fact: I got booted from the gifted program
I am the only student in the entire history of my school district to get booted from a gifted program

That's.. that's not how that works. The "gifted program" is targeted at individuals who process information and make connections differently from "normal" people. Because of this, a lot of people in "gifted" programs are actually those that are struggling in school. There's two reasons for this: the student is very intelligent and has found a way to "work the system", or the student just doesn't grasp the information in the form that the teacher is teaching it (ex: they need hands-on stuff, teacher uses only a whiteboard and lectures).

You can't exactly flunk out of being "gifted". It's aimed at kids with high potential, but not always necessarily the best work ethics.

I used quotations a lot because I think that the program is pretty pretentious. A whole lot of fluff for people to feel special. There are some cases where people do truly need the special attention, but most of the time it's kids with overbearing parents who want them to have every single award or medal possible.

[Clownfish]

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I have noticed that the kids in the program don't really process things like other people, and 50% of them have aspergers and whatnot, so that makes sense.

The lady there kicked me out in a yelling rampage anyways

[Oasis]

That's.. that's not how that works. The "gifted program" is targeted at individuals who process information and make connections differently from "normal" people. Because of this, a lot of people in "gifted" programs are actually those that are struggling in school. There's two reasons for this: the student is very intelligent and has found a way to "work the system", or the student just doesn't grasp the information in the form that the teacher is teaching it (ex: they need hands-on stuff, teacher uses only a whiteboard and lectures).

You can't exactly flunk out of being "gifted". It's aimed at kids with high potential, but not always necessarily the best work ethics.

I used quotations a lot because I think that the program is pretty pretentious. A whole lot of fluff for people to feel special. There are some cases where people do truly need the special attention, but most of the time it's kids with overbearing parents who want them to have every single award or medal possible.

In my school the gifted program was just teaching stuff a year ahead. We never really learned anything differently.

But the kids in the gifted program were the ones taking AP classes and consistently getting good grades in high school.

[TheABELBOTO]

You can also be a walmart store manager and make about 300,000+ a year. You don't even need a degree.

According to the brown townysis, Walmart store managers are among the highest paid in the nation, with Costco leading the pack with average manager salaries of $109,000.

Not even kidding.

[beachbum111111]

It builds character.

You should have to go to Military school after you graduate.

[McJob]

I got work with HP and Ubisoft on the strength of my confidence alone.

[espio100]

Ubisoft.

Tell ubisoft to put some confidence in their games and atleast try to make good ones

[Aide33]

OP seems to like to blame the system for his own failure and doesn't like to take responsibility.

[McJob]

Tell ubisoft to put some confidence in their games and atleast try to make good ones

[Darryl McKoy]

It builds character.

You should have to go to Military school after you graduate.

Yeah that'd be a great way to saturate the labour force with mindless drones

[Lord Tony®]

I don't honestly believe that someone without some kind of learning disability should be failing high school

Me neither. All I did in highschool was sleep and I still manage to pass. The only class I failed was cooking because I was late like 100+ times so I lost highschool credit.