Author Topic: Has the U.S.A turned on its police officers?(Debate)  (Read 2365 times)

How about a more recent one
except on this one i can see both sides of the story, on one side he had a knife, but on the other the man was backing away from the police and they didnt have to unload 2 clips, This is a good example of police officers who are in the wrong
I take whatever cops say with a grain of salt until I see video proof.

I think this is an inappropriate automatic assumption. The vast majority of China's population consists of Han people (91%), however there are also several minority groups. The odds are that you'll come across a Chinese individual of Han origin, but there is also a chance of meeting a Chinese individual who is not of Han origin.
except the 9% of chinese you'd meet who aren't of han origin are in places you wouldn't be traveling like in xinjiang and the gobi

jamaicans, on the other hand...

I take whatever cops say with a grain of salt until I see video proof.
exactly what i was saying earlier, No one should be deemed innocent or guilty until all the facts are out on the table

How about a more recent one
except on this one i can see both sides of the story, on one side he had a knife, but on the other the man was backing away from the police and they didnt have to unload 2 clips, This is a good example of police officers who are in the wrong
Eh, I don't know. Depending on how close he was, I'd probably use lethal force if I was a police officer.

I guess the danger with defaulting to lethal force is that we're gonna end up with more people dying unnecessarily. On the other hand, police officers have families and their own reasons to not put themselves at undue risk (maybe the point of the job though?). The whole debate is pretty complicated, and I think it'll be easier to solve it if we start sticking body cameras on cops.


Eh, I don't know. Depending on how close he was, I'd probably use lethal force if I was a police officer.

I guess the danger with defaulting to lethal force is that we're gonna end up with more people dying unnecessarily. On the other hand, police officers have families and their own reasons to not put themselves at undue risk (maybe the point of the job though?). The whole debate is pretty complicated, and I think it'll be easier to solve it if we start sticking body cameras on cops.
i suppose your right, i guess i wasn't releasing about worries the police officer had

im sorry what

He quoted me and said it was irrelevant, that is extremely dismissive.

He quoted me and said it was irrelevant, that is extremely dismissive.

Whether or not an assumption in that case is inappropriate doesn't really matter since we're talking about the likelihood that somebody of Jamaican descent also being of African descent.

He quoted me and said it was irrelevant, that is extremely dismissive.
that's not dismissive, it's accurate


You are not supposed to need the police unless stuff gets ultra hardcore. And thats a very rare need.
pusillanimous individual generations now, always needing help, not attempting or preventing anything. Happy to give power to someone else because fear and lazy and stupid.
And the average cop isnt qualified to save you. They are clowns that are looking for an outlet to empower themselves over thier fellow man. The kind of personality that even wants to be a cop ia a sick person that cant be trusted.

A while back I read that it's pretty hard to stop a man who has a knife if he's nearby. If they charge you then you only have a couple seconds to react. Bullets don't kill immediately, especially when you aim for the center of mass.

Also, it's nigh impossible to draw your gun and shoot a man who is charging you with a knife, so that explains the gun pulling on people carrying knives. Not saying it's right, but it is what it is.

Non lethal takedowns of armed people are hard as well, requiring careful coordination.

On the other hand, I read a rather convincing article from an Iraq war veteran who hypothesized that if cops stuck their own necks out a little bit more, even at the cost of their own safety, then public outreach would be a lot better. The man drew these conclusions from his own anecdotes working with Iraq's populace on his tours.

Food for thought, I suppose.

Killing someone who isn't endangering anyone's life is unnecessary and the police understandably get plenty of flack whenever it happens, but I don't think many complain when an officer rightfully uses lethal force to diffuse a dangerous situation.

Also imagine the San Bernardino shootings if it weren't for our police officers
I don't think anyone is saying "I wish we didn't have law enforcement"

You mean when the police were to late to the scene?
Cops are good at counting dead bodies, and they deserve congratulations for that? Sounds like police failed miserably.

anyone can stop a shooter if they were allowed to. Californians were not allowed to.
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