Author Topic: Star Wars Episode 7 Reactions (WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS) (Read 12921 times)

TheArmyGuy · December 18, 2015, 10:04:31 AM

Kylo Ren is the best villain so far IMO. I admittedly lauighed when that mask first came off, but it's really refreshing not to have another generic evil character, but someone with an actual special thing to him, with the internal conflict and all.

P.S. that silver clone bitch was loving retared, either don't deactivate the shields and you die, or deactivate them and you, everyone else and a multibillion credit spaceweapon die. Easy choice.

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Lockebox · December 18, 2015, 10:24:13 AM

Quote from: TheArmyGuy on December 18, 2015, 10:04:31 AM

Kylo Ren is the best villain so far IMO.

Kylo Ren is a loving baby

Also Commander Phasma is severely underplayed in this movie. She'll be back obviously but wow, really underplayed.

DaSord213 · December 18, 2015, 11:24:05 AM

Quote from: Swholli on December 18, 2015, 09:55:57 AM

Also I was confused with Finn turning because if they're supposed to be genetically modified and brainwashed when they're basically born (cause he was taken away from his family) then he grew up knowing the First Order did stuff like this, there's no way you go 20 some years, even as a janitor, not hearing stories or listening to speeches (like Hux gave) about how many people the New Order kills on a daily basis.

It's not that I don't buy it, it's more I think it could have happened later in the film or, maybe even earlier and offscreen so that when we do the Finn's "liar revealed" trope (which he does like loving three times), it'd be a surprise to the audience and give his character a little more weight other than "well, of course he's good now because he just so happens to be the one stormtrooper with the heart of gold also he's a main character."

My only thought on why Finn turning would be the handwavium version of the force gave him a conscience and he couldn't bring himself to be evil bad guy. Like Kylo noticed Finn to the point of being able to identify him immediately when it was revealed he turned. I'm thinking that the force guided Finn to being a good guy and releasing super pilot guy whose name I can't remember right now.

Quote from: Lockebox on December 18, 2015, 10:24:13 AM

Kylo Ren is a loving baby

To be honest it was way more believable than Anakin's or Luke's crybabyness. Kylo was obviously still being torn apart by his decision to leave his family (then destroy Luke's academy?) and join the Dark Side. He didn't go on a full movie speel about "it's not fair, none of it is FAIR". Instead Kylo made a decision to go fully to the dark side and kill his father. You could definitely tell that he was emotionally unstable but his decision gave him clarity on what he felt he needed to do.

Anyways. I personally thing that Rey is Luke's daughter, and that her mother is either Mara Jade or a new force sensitive. She was way too powerful to not have two parents that were force sensitive. Plus I can't be the only one who thinks he looks vaguely similar to Padme. Now, why Luke would drop his own daughter off on a wasteland planet for, what, 10+ years I don't know. My dad's thought was that whoever Rey's mother is didn't want Luke to turn Rey into a jedi and decided to try to get her as far away from Luke as possible.

Lord Tony� · December 18, 2015, 11:27:08 AM

Quote from: TheArmyGuy on December 18, 2015, 10:04:31 AM

that silver clone bitch

They aren't clones.

Lockebox · December 18, 2015, 11:27:53 AM

Quote from: DaSord213 on December 18, 2015, 11:24:05 AM

To be honest it was way more believable than Anakin's or Luke's crybabyness

I will have to agree though. He's a crybaby but a believable one. He really sold me on his "unstable" personality.

Still, what a lil bitch.

Nymph · December 18, 2015, 11:41:50 AM

Quote from: Swholli on December 18, 2015, 09:55:57 AM

Also, if it was something he could do the whole time, then why didn't he do it later when he got shot and thus damaged before the Finn/Rey saber duel.

Probably because he just killed his dad, I mean wether or not he liked him that was obviously an emotional moment.

Tumbleweed · December 18, 2015, 12:35:04 PM

Quote from: DaSord213 on December 18, 2015, 11:24:05 AM

I'm thinking that the force guided Finn to being a good guy

While the force does flow through everyone, I think Finn is probably just as force sensitive as say Han.
Rey is really the most force sensitive, when she touched Luke's lightsaber, all the visions came to her mind, but when Finn took the lightsaber nothing happened.

As for Rey's relationship with Luke, I think it is probable that it is a father/daughter dynamic, but I doubt Mara Jade will be in this saga.
But I think Rey is so quick to handle and control the force not because she has 2 force sensitive parents, because it is said that Luke is the last jedi, but because Luke is the most powerful jedi arguably of the entire saga.

Trogtor · December 18, 2015, 12:39:53 PM

i actually wanna think rey is han and leia's kid because they did have 3 kids. they probably didnt say anything in this movie about it so they could make it story-rich for the next movie.

Tumbleweed · December 18, 2015, 02:22:49 PM

Quote from: Trogtor on December 18, 2015, 12:39:53 PM

because they did have 3 kids.

?? source?
i mean unless han and leia both forgot the name and look of his daughter i find it pretty unreasonable

Quote from: Swholli on December 18, 2015, 09:55:57 AM

Also, if it was something he could do the whole time, then why didn't he do it later when he got shot and thus damaged before the Finn/Rey saber duel.

~~probably caused he just killed his father and is a little shook-up and can't sense the laser coming at him~~
oops someone already said this

Cypthon · December 18, 2015, 02:27:39 PM

The villagers shot first.

Lockebox · December 18, 2015, 02:29:21 PM

Its scary seeing Chewy as mad as he was. Maybe he'll get to rip Ren's arms off :O

Cypthon · December 18, 2015, 02:33:12 PM

Star wars right here:

Rey and Kylo ren in the light saber fight

Mentioning Kylo Ren was shot like 4 times and didn't dodge the beams.

Gets cut a bunch.

Rey somehow nearly kills a sith lord on her first time using a lightsaber

Tumbleweed · December 18, 2015, 02:35:56 PM

Kylo Ren isn't a sith

Trogtor · December 18, 2015, 03:15:47 PM

Quote from: Tumbleweed on December 18, 2015, 02:22:49 PM

?? source?
i mean unless han and leia both forgot the name and look of his daughter i find it pretty unreasonable

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solo_family

i remember my brother telling me this so i looked it up and yeah they actually had 3 kids, their names are different for some reason though wtf maybe its not canon

Taciturn · December 18, 2015, 03:33:16 PM

Quote from: Swholli on December 17, 2015, 11:12:50 PM

Why did they literally just do a not as tight version of the plot to Episode 4?

THIS X1000000000
My friends wanted to go all Anakin-on-the-younglings on my because I wasn't jizzing everywhere but I was like "This is the same thing as Episode 4 but with more cute humor, better special effects, and a WAY WAY WAY OVER THE TOP climax.

Also I was hella disappointed by how little characterization the bad guys had. Even if the movie isn't about them you need to treat them like people so that they aren't these unilateral evildoers with completely unjustifiable goals.
Like Phasma had no role in the movie what was even the point of including her?

Also Finn was trained his entire damn life to kill people and once he gets out there he somehow can't do it? And to top that off, as soon as he was a good guy he shot like a bunch of people from his former army! And he was a way better shot than them!

I did like how they subtly wove a bunch of national socialist imagery into the First Order.

Oh yeah and why, instead of shooting, did many stormtroopers just run at the good guys and get shot?

EDIT: Swholli u never replied to my snapchat on Star Wars opening night :'^(