I've 100% had it with these loving islam asylum seekers

[Akio-]

I think it's kinda obvious that I'm being facetious but ok

it's not easy to tell with you, keep that in mind.

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[Planr]

Did you know god sent a pack of bears to murder children for calling a dude bald? (2 kings 2:23-24)

This is not what happened. A very large group of over three-dozen young adults were harassing and insulting God's prophet Elisha (which was the same as insulting God himself). Elisha declared a curse on them, and two female bears appeared from the woods and mauled forty two of these young adults. What they did was a very serious offense, as God indicated by the severity of his punishment to them. It was 100% justified.

http://www.gotquestions.org/Elisha-baldhead.html

[Akio-]

smh they shoulda been able to take those weak-ass bears

[Cappytaino]

Did you know god sent a pack of bears to murder children for calling a dude bald? (2 kings 2:23-24)

Serious time: I think that the problem that a lot of people have with this refugee crCIA is a lack of information, on both sides. These refugees are not all good people, but they're not all bad. The problem comes when:
A. Europe is completely unprepared to deal with the refugees
B. Saudi Arabia has living space for 1 million people sitting empty (air conditioned shelters for muslims making the hajj currently unused) but refuses to help in any substantial way
C. Bleeding hearts want to take refugees into America and if one disagrees with the sentiment, they're labeled a tribal and islamo/xenophobic.

The problem isn't even a problem of bad people getting in, it's a problem of Europe being vastly unprepared to deal with this crCIA. Europe, historically, was able to have the societies that they did because they were fairly Ethnically/Culturally homogeneous. I'm going to offer an anecdote from my time living across the pond.

Growing up, I was always the only Native kid. For the first part of my childhood, my family lived in Switzerland. I obviously looked a little different than the other kids, but that was no big deal. We spoke the same language and we lived the same daily culture and everyone got along, and I still keep in touch with people from there. My family was generally accepted, despite obvious racial difference and speaking mostly English, because we assimilated. I think that's the key term.

We didn't threaten to behead anyone drawing Ibofanga in a way we didn't like. We didn't try to make everyone else believe in our creation story. We were respectful and followed the rules and recognized we were guests in someone else's country. Just like you would as a guest in a home, we took off our dirty shoes before coming in, and minded our manners, and were well received.

[Waru]

smh they shoulda been able to take those weak-ass bears

smh japan shoulda been able to take those week-ass nukes

[otto-san]

It was 100% justified.

this is very important because it's an example of how a seemingly radical punishment (literally being mauled by bears) can be seen as just in a hypothetical ridiculous fundamentalist christian ideology constructed from literal text. that's the point ipquarx was making. i seriously doubt you would find a real christian that believes it's okay for groups of people to be mauled by bears for making angry protest against god in the modern world, and i definitely don't think ipquarx was saying that christians believe that. it was an example of something that's kinda tucked away because nobody really practices based on its literal word, why wouldn't the same happen with various schools of islam?

[Clownfish]

I'd just like to say I have a love hate relationship with this thread right now

[Ipquarx]

This is not what happened. A very large group of over three-dozen young adults were harassing and insulting God's prophet Elisha (which was the same as insulting God himself). Elisha declared a curse on them, and two female bears appeared from the woods and mauled forty two of these young adults. What they did was a very serious offense, as God indicated by the severity of his punishment to them. It was 100% justified.

There's a lot of reasons why this interpretation requires a real stretch of the imagination to even begin to work. Like the fact that they literally just called him bald. That's literally what it says in the text itself. Even if you were to consider that an insult (He'd have to have a real small fuse), that requires a real stretch of the imagination to consider that "mocking god himself" and to consider what would normally be a very minor sin to be a "very serious offense." And perhaps they didn't even know this person was the prophet of god, or didn't even know about god in the first place. There are so many possibilities, many cases in which this is not justified.

Here's the part where I would also normally talk about how intentions are everything, and about how a god would not only care about actions but also the intentions behind those actions, and how those intentions are almost certainly not harsh enough to justify death by loving bear mauling, of all 42 kids no less, some who were probably there by nothing but peer pressure, however the entire point I was trying to make was this:

this is very important because it's an example of how a seemingly radical punishment (literally being mauled by bears) can be seen as just in a hypothetical ridiculous fundamentalist christian ideology constructed from literal text. that's the point ipquarx was making. i seriously doubt you would find a real christian that believes it's okay for groups of people to be mauled by bears for making angry protest against god in the modern world, and i definitely don't think ipquarx was saying that christians believe that. it was an example of something that's kinda tucked away because nobody really practices based on its literal word, why wouldn't the same happen with various schools of islam?

Explains it perfectly.

[SuperFlaminninja³]

the difference is that the holocaust is not crazy tribal fearmongering

first off I think you meant the Qur'an and have you read it? He is right, I literaly teaches "infidels" are fair game among child enthusiasm and murder of said "infidels", and Annoying Orange is right the ones who arent murdering and molesting are not following they're religion correctly

[Frequency]

if I was a prophet and 42+ little stuffs were mocking me while I'm doing the will of the supreme authority over all existence, I'd say it's justified as a means to send a message to future generations not to interfere with serious business.

[Headcrab Zombie]

and Annoying Orange is right the ones who arent murdering and molesting are not following they're religion correctly

Again, there's forgeted up stuff in every religions holy book. I could say Christians who aren't doing the crazy stuff their book says to do aren't proper Christians. But that doesn't get anyone anywhere, so stop singling out one religion as being okay to do it to

[Alkatjo]

STOP CATCHING ON!

[Moppy]

Again, there's forgeted up stuff in every religions holy book. I could say Christians who aren't doing the crazy stuff their book says to do aren't proper Christians. But that doesn't get anyone anywhere, so stop singling out one religion as being okay to do it to

It's a little different for Christians. Often we don't follow all the old testament rules because the old testament laws were set up under the original covenant God had with Abraham and his descendants.
This law was sort of overriden by in the new testament when Jesus died for everyone's sins and were accounted for. Now the laws are more of a loose guideline moreso than something that needs to be followed to a T.
As an example, many animals in the old testament were considered unclean, such as pigs, lizards, various bugs, etc. People speculate that this is partly because those foods listed were likely to get people sick in the ancient days before anyone knew anything about cleaning stuff, but I digress.
In Acts 10, Peter gets a vision from the Lord saying, essentially, that all food is now clean, and that it's fine to eat these foods. This partly shows how the Law is mostly void now, due to the new covenant. There are other examples that I can't think of right now.

Essentially, Christians should live by the 2 core principles Jesus set forth: Love God, and love others as you love yourself. (see Matthew 23:37)
That's the true spirit and point of the law. Not all of us do, obviously, but that's basically it. That's why we don't stone kids for disrespecting their parents.

If I've lost any of you due to Christianese or what have you, then please, do not hesitate to ask me to elaborate.

EDIT: Man I'm so bad a posting long posts without numerous grammatical errors...

[Drydess]

That's why we don't stone kids for disrespecting their parents.

Exactly, you stone the mother for improperly raising the child.

[Foxscotch]

Love God, and love others as you love yourself. (see Matthew 23:37)

someone needs to send that memo to the homo haters