Author Topic: [TRIGGER WARNING] how does religion exist in educated first world countries?  (Read 29036 times)

Interesting, so this was bumped apparently. Well, I might as well give my two cents.

I'm an atheist. I was raised a Christian but in my teenage years I started to question whether I could actually conclude that there is indeed a god. I wasn't actively looking for evidence that a god didn't exist, I simply called things as I saw them. I even looked up "proofs" that god exists, "proofs" that evolution is bunk and none of them made any logical sense. By that point I was only praying out of habit, not out of an actual belief in a god. So, I just stopped. There was no one point where I could say "I'm officially an atheist now," it was more of a smooth transition.

To clarify, I don't believe in a god, but that doesn't mean I think one doesn't exist. It's entirely possible, but I haven't seen any evidence that that's the case.

but I haven't seen any evidence that that's the case.
I've always found it interesting whenever someone would bring up the "If there's no evidence it doesn't exist" argument. It's totally valid to have that view, but that kinda defeats the purpose of it being a 'faith.'

The point of religion is to put your suspicions and questions away and just put trust in something that may not even exist, which already sounds 100% stupid from my point of view. It's totally valid either way, but both arguments are very volatile. So I just say to everyone,

Whatever helps you see clearly.


Interesting, so this was bumped apparently. Well, I might as well give my two cents.

I'm an atheist. I was raised a Christian but in my teenage years I started to question whether I could actually conclude that there is indeed a god. I wasn't actively looking for evidence that a god didn't exist, I simply called things as I saw them. I even looked up "proofs" that god exists, "proofs" that evolution is bunk and none of them made any logical sense. By that point I was only praying out of habit, not out of an actual belief in a god. So, I just stopped. There was no one point where I could say "I'm officially an atheist now," it was more of a smooth transition.

To clarify, I don't believe in a god, but that doesn't mean I think one doesn't exist. It's entirely possible, but I haven't seen any evidence that that's the case.
Hey, man. You wanna learn the legit evidences against macro evolution? I got a few but you all better be ready to read.
Im not gonna do this if no one is gonna listen but this is interesting stuff whether agree with me or believe me or not.
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I've always found it interesting whenever someone would bring up the "If there's no evidence it doesn't exist" argument. It's totally valid to have that view, but that kinda defeats the purpose of it being a 'faith.'

The point of religion is to put your suspicions and questions away and just put trust in something that may not even exist, which already sounds 100% stupid from my point of view. It's totally valid either way, but both arguments are very volatile. So I just say to everyone,

Whatever helps you see clearly.
I never said "There's currently no evidence therefore it's impossible." That would be an argument from ignorance. I clearly said it's still a possibility, but I think you probably noticed that. Not only is it possible but I have a completely open mind to it if someone can give evidence of it.

The way in which I think is very much that of the scientific process. I would very much rather call myself a skeptic over an atheist as it's much more descriptive. You gather empirical data, make a theory to explain what you see. Then you make predictions based on your theory (For example, general/special relativity predicted light would be affected by gravity) and then test those predictions. If they turn out to be right, then the better the chance your theory is correct. If it turns out to not be the case, then your theory is wrong and you either need to modify it or make a new one. In science there is no "belief." Only evidence. Once the evidence gets to a certain point, you can conclude that it is with great probability, true.

Religion in general has no testable predictions. Certain religions do, for example ones that say that the earth is on the back of a turtle or some other crazy stuff, are objectively wrong. It's simply not supported by empirical data.

Unfortunately the scientific method is the only way we can really know anything about our universe, and since religions like Christianity fall well outside that purview (Unless you insist that Christianity MUST be paired with young earth creationism, in which case it's again objectively wrong) there is no logical reason to say that Christianity is fact, that there is a god and jesus who performed miracles and parted the red sea and all that.

If you want to believe that's fine, as long as you recognize that it's not a purely logical thing to do (Not everyone is purely logical, that's not a bad thing) and you don't let that get in the way of what we actually know as fact, such as biology, geology, zoology, archaeology, history, medicinal practices and so on.

Hey, man. You wanna learn the legit evidences against macro evolution? I got a few but you all better be ready to read.
Im not gonna do this if no one is gonna listen but this is interesting stuff whether agree with me or believe me or not.
I'll bite.


I personally love the concept of religion. All my ancestors were Catholic, man, they all just come together and love each other.

Except when a Crusade happens and people start chanting Deus Vult.

p much the only reason i don't believe in religion is because i can control my own life and i don't need someone watching over me 24/7

i don't need someone watching over me 24/7
obv u do cuz ur on blf.............

obv u do cuz ur on blf.............
yall motherforgeters need jesus

obv u do cuz ur on blf.............
wut u tryin 2 say punk

yall motherforgeters need jesus
isnt jesus the guy who handed me my taco out of the food truck yesterday


isnt jesus the guy who handed me my taco out of the food truck yesterday

No Jesus is the guy that I hung on a cross at the end of my driveway

Or at least I thought he was Jesus at first. I actually just found out it was a guy who looked like a "movie Jesus".

it's true he gave me rabies
h-hey i got that fixed a week ago :c