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Author Topic: Overwatch Megathread  (Read 894164 times)

I just want that emote wheel right now in the live regions.

Also, nerf Symmetra for the love of loving god, please.

There's this "PTR Philosophy" video that came out. Go watch it here.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2017, 03:54:48 PM by Ahead »

This competitive was perfect. Pls more of this.

I knew you were playing a tank before I even looked at the screenshot

« Last Edit: January 17, 2017, 09:19:59 PM by Regulith »

hate people that go soldier and don't have gold dmg

like, why is there are reason to take soldier if you can't keep up in dmg you pleb, go support and let me have soldier

hate people that go soldier and don't have gold dmg

like, why is there are reason to take soldier if you can't keep up in dmg you pleb, go support and let me have soldier
fite me

i will best you in the ring of honor

medals don't mean anything tho


elaborate

you can have the best damage in the world but if you're not doing it at the right time it doesn't matter, e.g. I can run into a group of enemies and deal a ton of damage but if I don't kill anyone and die while my whole team is running back from spawn it means jack squat

same goes for the opposite

you can have the best damage in the world but if you're not doing it at the right time it doesn't matter, e.g. I can run into a group of enemies and deal a ton of damage but if I don't kill anyone and die while my whole team is running back from spawn it means jack squat

same goes for the opposite
see i agree that yeah, medals dont mean everything, but its pretty safe to assume that if you have gold damage, and youre dps, youre doing your job right. especially if youre also gold or silver elims. if youre gold in objective time and elims, youre probably doing the best job at playing the objective. could it mean youre still playing badly? possibly, but it depends on the match. if you have gold damage as soldier and your other dps was symmetra or widow, then yeah, that medal doesnt really mean anything.

i just think the whole "doesnt matter if you have gold" idea is used far too often. it applies in certain situations, like where one dps is only 1k ahead of the other in damage, or like i said before where that player is the only reliable dps. but for the most part? if a dps is getting high elims and high damage, theyre probably doing their job. if a rein is getting gold obj time and elims, he's probably doing his job. saying medals mean nothing is p far fetched imo


Overwatch is a game of tactics. You can't accurately represent teamplay by reducing it down to a couple numbers.

The problem with damage medal is it that damage doesn't mean anything unless you get a kill. Certain heroes just inherently do more damage. Junkrat is going to splash damage around everywhere. But if the enemy runs away and heals, then all you've done is fed the enemy support ult charge.

The problem with elim medals is it that it doesn't say who those targets where.
Example: A widowmaker that can consistently get one kill before the rest of the team engages, turning a 6v6 into a 6v5, is very useful.
A widowmaker that comes in at the end of a fight, when it's 6v2, and you've already won, and the remaining two are running away, and she kills them, is significantly less useful. But she has twice as many kills.
Also remember than an elim only requires that you do one point of damage to a target that is later finished.

Medals can be an indicator, they're not 100% useless.
But they're not 100% infallible either.

When it becomes a real problem is when someone is holding their team back, refusing to switch, because they genuinely believe they're doing great (even though the entire rest of the team sees otherwise) just because they have a damage medal.

And saying "if you don't have gold damage as soldier then you're bad" isn't helping anyone because we don't know the whole story of what's going on.
Maybe the soldier was really good, but the other dps on the team were just that much better.
Maybe there was a high splash damage character going around splashing everywhere.
Maybe the enemy team kept feeding a Zarya to max energy and Zarya wrecked them. I've had that happen.
There's simply too many possibilities to dumb it down to "if you don't have gold, then you're bad"
« Last Edit: January 18, 2017, 01:36:08 PM by Headcrab Zombie »

well that's reasonable as well!

good talk good talk

yeah, i agree it depends on the game, but i think medals are still a p good indicator for the most part of how good a dps/tank is doing. but ye as we both pointed out, its situational. an elim medal alone def doesnt show how good a dps is doing, or anyone really. same with healing, the amount of health lost is different every game, and you can't really base youre judgment of the player off of it.

That all being said, I shouldn't ever have gold damage on Reinhardt, especially when there was an enemy Reinhardt and I got the damage blocked card.
Numbers aside, I wasn't just charging in like a numskull. I consider my own team's survival at most importance, and we were grouped up almost every time. I would only throw out firestrikes, and swing at Mei when she would come in behind to harass, or murder the enemy Rein for charging in. The only time I would go 'all in' is on those two times I ulted their whole team. But for whatever reason, my team was just incapable of throwing out any sort of damage. Almost like they were all playing with controllers or just outright deciding not to attack anyone. I spectated Genji while dead and he was just, running backwards away from Soldier, and, not returning fire.

i hope the tank meta dies off soon because that would virtually be a roadhog buff and i love playing the hog