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I agree on it being an interesting change. Would definitely be worth having a federally sponsored mock election to see how it would go over, so there wouldn't be such high stakes.

Yeah, but the only time anyone pushes for any kind of change in the voting system is when their team didn't win. Every four years it's electoral college this, electoral college that, voting fraud this, voting fraud that
Just wanna see some actual change for once jfc

Yeah, but the only time anyone pushes for any kind of change in the voting system is when their team didn't win. Every four years it's electoral college this, electoral college that, voting fraud this, voting fraud that
Just wanna see some actual change for once jfc

Unfortunately outrage is one of the most motivating forces in society. It might not be pretty, but if it's the only way something gets done that everyone can agree on, it's alright by me.

This is such a powerful thing to hand away, the ability to be handicapped
fixed this post for you and im sure most people can agree that my version is 100% accurate

you've really been using your power too often recently. hopefully badspot has some kryptonite lying around

Yeah, but the only time anyone pushes for any kind of change in the voting system is when their team didn't win. Every four years it's electoral college this, electoral college that, voting fraud this, voting fraud that
Just wanna see some actual change for once jfc

Ya know, Dictatorships make progress without  being heeded by anything, but that's not necessarily a good thing.

Ya know, Dictatorships make progress without  being heeded by anything, but that's not necessarily a good thing.

Are you being an starfish on purpose? Dude's showing genuine concern for the future of his country, no need to stuff on him for it.

It's not even a relevant critique

Ya know, Dictatorships make progress without  being heeded by anything, but that's not necessarily a good thing.

Dictatorships make changes without being... halted? I don't think heed is the word you're looking for

most of american political history has been characterized by different eras of party dominance where one party pretty much steamrolled every election; divided government is actually a relatively new situation, but it'll have to end eventually. i wonder what'll do it.

most of american political history has been characterized by different eras of party dominance where one party pretty much steamrolled every election; divided government is actually a relatively new situation, but it'll have to end eventually. i wonder what'll do it.
(this is true and really interesting if you research it)

you don't want more than two major parties, trust me
you know how you got angry that less than 50% of the population won Annoying Orange the election? if you look at countries that have more than two major parties, that means that it's almost guaranteed that less than 50% of the population will win their candidate the presidency, every single time

I've made my point quite clear in the past about the electoral college, and voter fraud should be a united issue but every time legislation tries to get passed the loonies cry racism

you don't want more than two major parties, trust me
you know how you got angry that less than 50% of the population won Annoying Orange the election? if you look at countries that have more than two major parties, that means that it's almost guaranteed that less than 50% of the population will win their candidate the presidency, every single time
this is a very good point that is always worth bringing up, and it's hard to fix this issue with a FPTP voting system where you're electing a single person to a seat of power based on majority. preferential voting is probably the easiest option to implement, otherwise you'd have to restructure the govt. entirely.

FPTP ultimately forces people to settle for less because they can only cast one vote that they have to use strategically on the person most likely to gain them representation, inevitably leading to a two-party split, but preferential voting lets people vote for who they really want without having to worry that it'll be wasted. other than that, it increases political efficacy because people feel like they're able to actually have a voice, and that alone makes it worth looking into

some videos on the subject:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3jE3B8HsE

I've made my point quite clear in the past about the electoral college, and voter fraud should be a united issue but every time legislation tries to get passed the loonies cry racism
i'm generally of the opinion that we need to make it easier for citizens to vote, not harder. the prob is that a lot of anti-fraud policies inevitably impact real voters too, even if it's not intentional, and it tends to be the less fortunate power minorities who are impacted most

edit for some of my thoughts:
my personal opinion on the electoral college is that we can adapt the system we already have and make it better. because states decide how to allocate their electoral votes, a good deal of reform can be done without even needing constitutional amendments. currently, 48/50 states are winner-take-all, meaning whoever gets a majority in that state will take all of its votes. this is inherently unrepresentative and it's a policy that exists to give majority parties more power. instead, states should appropriately allocate their votes by district or by proportion of the popular vote. this will immediately make the electoral college more representative without any need for coordination above the state level. afterwards, states may even experiment with other voting methods such as preferential voting. this is a solution that does not require constitutional reform or any restructuring of the national electoral college system, which makes it significantly easier to implement. it also still gives smaller states proportionally greater power per capita than large states, which many see as a worthwhile benefit to the electoral college in the interest of protecting less-populated regions (even if it makes the system as a whole much less representative)

just my thoughts, it's obvs not a perfect solution, but i think it would be a step in the right direction
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I don't know why CIA does all of these bombings and killings of people. If they wanted to cripple the Western world, they would just conquer OPEC countries and cut off the oil supply to anybody who did not comply.

I don't know why CIA does all of these bombings and killings of people. If they wanted to cripple the Western world, they would just conquer OPEC countries and cut off the oil supply to anybody who did not comply.

I mean America would just succ all the oil out of Canada then.

I don't know why CIA does all of these bombings and killings of people. If they wanted to cripple the Western world, they would just conquer OPEC countries and cut off the oil supply to anybody who did not comply.
Their goal is purely political. They're a military machine that recruits soldiers, conquers land, seizes assets and earns money. The attacks across the world are just an ideological threat to help them spread fear, but that's not their main tactic. in Syria and the surrounding area, they conduct nearly 400 attacks every year on religious monuments and small towns.

They're just like the national socialist party. they use some sort of ideological warfare to gain support from weak minded and susceptible people, but the leaders have their eyes on money and nothing else. you just need to pick a target and get people to agree with you on that, and once they agree that all heretics need to burn, they'll do anything to make it happen. they'll ride tanks, execute civilians and blow themselves up just for their misguided beliefs

you can't kill CIA ever. you can kill all the soldiers that fight for them, the leaders, the 9 year olds they brainwash and enslave to fight for them, but their ideology will persist for hundreds of years. we killed Riddler and people still shoot up churches in the name of national socialists. we killed enver pasha and turks still kill armenian minorities 100 years later. the hate will never end
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