POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD

[TristanLuigi]

he was specifically talking about the evils of communism. again, don't put stuff in my mouth

perhaps if we ignored everything else we've been talking about, maybe, but discussions don't happen in a vacuum
this was in the context of "what's worse, communism or national socialistsm"

he's talking about hollywood you donut

that's why he included "taught" and "informed," right?

as for the "muh real communism" stuff- no true scotsman

on the flipside, though, it's a hasty generalization to assume that all communists endorse the ideas of the Soviet Union

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[Red Spy]

perhaps if we ignored everything else we've been talking about, maybe, but discussions don't happen in a vacuum
this was in the context of "what's worse, communism or national socialistsm"

communism isn't inherently evil because it's just a stupid economic system that needs fixing

you're actually handicapped good to know

i was responding to that sentence specifically and nothing else

that's why he included "taught" and "informed," right?

[Juncoph]

on the flipside, though, it's a hasty generalization to assume that all communists endorse the ideas of the Soviet Union

i never said all the reds were tankies

[TristanLuigi]

i'm sorry i didn't realize our education system was controlled by hollywood
i'll be sure to let my professors know that they're puppets of Big Cinema

i never said all the reds were tankies

wasn't really directed at you so much as providing a counterpoint

[Khaz]

you're actually handicapped good to know

wait are you talking to me, luigi, or both of us

communism is "worse" than national socialistsm only if you take in the account of death toll. again those deaths from communism only resulted by the fact that it's loving impossible and exploited by evil people

when you get down into their core ideologies it's pretty clear which one is worse

again communism is impossible and doesnt help people, but national socialistsm is a whole other level of forgeted up

[SWAT One]

Communism is flawed because it is philosophically impossible. Man is mortal, not omniscient, imperfect and has free will. Communism aims to satisfy two things: Carrying an economic system by man's guidance and striving for compassion for all of it's participants in the process.

Are we to yoke the imperfect man who may at times choose to be compassionate and at other times not, with the task of knowing all the needs of the people in all aspects of their life and have the ability to run the State without error in such a selfless manner as to provide for all the needs of the nation?

To believe so is foolish arrogance.

To believe that such a system can be stateless is either blissfully or willfully ignorant of the historical truth that social hierarchy (and for that matter, private ownership) existed even in prehistory and clung to any existence of society and government to this date. Our understanding of society inextricably involves hierarchy.

I say this as someone who at a time had full faith in Communism over every other system.

[Juncoph]

communism is "worse" than national socialistsm only if you take in the account of death toll. again those deaths from communism only resulted by the fact that it's loving impossible and exploited by evil people

yeah raw death tolls aren't as great a metric as you'd think

china stubs its toe and 10 gorillion people die

taiwan is erased and only like 10 chinese people larping as south koreans die

[Red Spy]

i'll be sure to let my professors know that they're puppets of Big Cinema

le every educated person is left wing

wait are you talking to me, luigi, or both of us

tristan is handicapped plain and simple. you're not.

[TristanLuigi]

tristan is handicapped plain and simple. you're not.

rude

[Red Spy]

rude

i'm sorry but you've rubbed me the wrong way since you asked me why i don't like progress in a pm and constantly calling me tribal or loveist isn't helping either

[Deus Ex]

i'm sorry but you've rubbed me the wrong way since you asked me why i don't like progress in a pm and constantly calling me tribal or loveist isn't helping either

ahahah whaaa

[Daswiruch]

explanation

this feels like a copypasta but anyways that was really well put

[TristanLuigi]

i'm sorry but you've rubbed me the wrong way since you asked me why i don't like progress in a pm and constantly calling me tribal or loveist isn't helping either

because i legimitely don't understand why people are conservative
it fails to make sense to me

i tried to be civil but then you hit me with climate denialism and what the forget am i supposed to do with that

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[Khaz]

thread's been way worse than this tbh